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A Fish Named Wallyum
11-03-2006, 03:53 PM
Weather permitting, this is one of the birds that I plan to fly this weekend. I just bought the paint yesterday, but didn't realize at the time how much the rocket was going to look like some kind of Miami Dolphins bird. The motormount was one I had laying around from Thrustline. It's a 2x18mm, 24mm cluster. I'm thinking about an E9-4 first flight and maybe an E9-4, 2xC6-5 if that works out okay.

snaquin
11-03-2006, 06:00 PM
Weather permitting, this is one of the birds that I plan to fly this weekend. I just bought the paint yesterday, but didn't realize at the time how much the rocket was going to look like some kind of Miami Dolphins bird. The motormount was one I had laying around from Thrustline. It's a 2x18mm, 24mm cluster. I'm thinking about an E9-4 first flight and maybe an E9-4, 2xC6-5 if that works out okay.

Now that's just too cool ..... :)

Zeus-cat
11-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Weather permitting, this is one of the birds that I plan to fly this weekend. I just bought the paint yesterday, but didn't realize at the time how much the rocket was going to look like some kind of Miami Dolphins bird. The motormount was one I had laying around from Thrustline. It's a 2x18mm, 24mm cluster. I'm thinking about an E9-4 first flight and maybe an E9-4, 2xC6-5 if that works out okay.

That sounds like an awful lot of power for a little rocket. Let us know how it works out.

A Fish Named Wallyum
11-05-2006, 06:48 PM
That sounds like an awful lot of power for a little rocket. Let us know how it works out.

I would, but I left it on the kitchen table and didn't realize it until I was 40 miles away from homw. :o I did get to fly the MadCow Hawk, which made the day worthwhile. Aside from that, I just took pictures. It was pretty windy.

Doug Sams
11-06-2006, 11:00 AM
It's a 2x18mm, 24mm cluster. I'm thinking about an E9-4 first flight and maybe an E9-4, 2xC6-5 if that works out okay. Bill,

Sorry you didn't get to fly it, but welcome to the Tim Allen side of BP rocketry :)

This combo sounds short to me. I'm thinking E9-6 and C6-7's instead. My rationale is that one type pops at apogee and the other afterward. IE, top and late, but not early.

The E9-4 will have a duration of 3.09+3.26=6.35 seconds burn+delay (NAR data). The C6-5's will be 1.86+4.29=6.15. So your total durations match well, but this is F impulse (27.87+2x8.82=45.51Ns), in a ~Fat Boy. I flew my stretched Fat Boy on an F23-7. That was more impulse, but only by 7Ns.

Using C6-7's and an E9-6, you get 1.86+6.24=8.10 and 3.09+5.97=9.06 seconds of duration, with the C6-7's deploying the chute and the E9-6 as backup.

In test engineering, they have an old saying: One test is worth a thousand expert opinions :) I suppose a sim would be the next best thing :)

BTW, if you're worried about too much ejection charge, I've plugged C6-0's using a 1/2" long piece of 1/2" dowel and epoxy.

Doug

A Fish Named Wallyum
11-06-2006, 02:42 PM
Bill,

Sorry you didn't get to fly it, but welcome to the Tim Allen side of BP rocketry :)

This combo sounds short to me. I'm thinking E9-6 and C6-7's instead. My rationale is that one type pops at apogee and the other afterward. IE, top and late, but not early.

The E9-4 will have a duration of 3.09+3.26=6.35 seconds burn+delay (NAR data). The C6-5's will be 1.86+4.29=6.15. So your total durations match well, but this is F impulse (27.87+2x8.82=45.51Ns), in a ~Fat Boy. I flew my stretched Fat Boy on an F23-7. That was more impulse, but only by 7Ns.

Using C6-7's and an E9-6, you get 1.86+6.24=8.10 and 3.09+5.97=9.06 seconds of duration, with the C6-7's deploying the chute and the E9-6 as backup.

In test engineering, they have an old saying: One test is worth a thousand expert opinions :) I suppose a sim would be the next best thing :)

BTW, if you're worried about too much ejection charge, I've plugged C6-0's using a 1/2" long piece of 1/2" dowel and epoxy.

Doug

Thanks for the info, Doug. I have two specially plugged spent 18mm casings that I plan to friction fit for at least the first flight. I don't know that I'll try the cluster until after I've had a successful E9 flight. Then again, if I keep leaving it in the kitchen on flight days, I really won't have to worry. :rolleyes:

maricopasem
11-17-2006, 02:04 PM
I was curious as to whether this guy was ever sent up.

A Fish Named Wallyum
11-21-2006, 11:03 PM
I was curious as to whether this guy was ever sent up.

Not yet. Both club launches were cancelled this weekend, and I'm down with bronchitis anyway. I'm trying to figure out how to get the colors right for the decals, but I haven't had much in the way of energy lately.