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Closet Astronaut
01-24-2015, 05:24 PM
I was sitting at the table today...with my red head... and she was bringing out her collection of hot wheels and said "I will giver you a quiz" she wanted me to identify the cars with out looking at the bottom, well hey, I'm up for that challenge. While I was naming the cars I flashed back to my child hood, remembering when I was about eight and nine my step mothers brother (a year younger) and me would take off for the two mile hike down to the Speedy's convenient store loaded with our two dollar a week allowance, where I would get my bag of Taco flavored Doritos, 32 oz bottle of Coke and of course a couple of packs of Odd Rods bubble gum card, stickers. I can still remember smelling the pack when opened, the smell of the bubble gum mixed with the aroma of the plastic card and adhesive backing mmmm...mmm.

How many old timers out there remember these? Boy..time were sure simpler then.

dlazarus6660
01-24-2015, 06:06 PM
I kinda-sorda remember those. I really wasn't into cars. What were the goofy product ones called? :confused:

ghrocketman
01-24-2015, 06:27 PM
The goofy 'product' ones were Wacky Packages by Topps.
They are still made every few years and I still collect them.
See my 'Beanball' Icon/Logo by my name.
That is my FAVORITE Wacky Package of all time; I think that one first appeared in like 1973.

jeffyjeep
01-24-2015, 07:00 PM
Wow! Those do indeed bring back memories!

I definitely remember Odd Rods, Silly Cycles, and Wacky Packages (Wacky Packages were my favorite.)

Besides GH's avatar, I remember the Wacky Packages stickers of Vomit (Comet), Crust (Crest), and Boo Hoo (Yoo Hoo.)

IIRC Wacky Packages were replaced by Garbage Pail Kids.

ghrocketman
01-24-2015, 07:19 PM
Wacky Packages were never replaced by anything and are still produced.
Garbage Pail Kids were produced concurrently for a few years, but I don't think Topps was their producer.

Three of my other favorite Wacky Packages are BRUTE 88 by Jungle' (parody on Brut 33 by Faberge') deodorant for Apes, Kongsford Charcoal for gorillas (parody on KingsFord), and Gutterade Fetid Sewer Water (parody on Gatorade).

Note the following features on the "Beanball" Wacky Package (parody on Topps own baseball cards)
1) Brand logo reads sTupid, in the 'Topps' font
2) Team name of the Gorilla character is the "Apes"
3) Thrown ball bores a hole clean through the bat, knocking the players helmet CLEAN OFF HIS HEAD leaving a gigantic 'knot'/'bump' on his head.
4) Crazed look on Gorilla player's face after getting beaned
5) Note at bottom of sticker that reads "Cardboard Bubble Gum, All Cards The SAME" which parodies the lousy hard stale stick of gum and number of 'repeats' found in packs of Basebawl Cards.

I once saw a MLB Playoff game in the last 15 years where the batter got beaned in an almost exact manner; the ball hit him squarely in the head, knocking his helmet CLEAN OFF, knocking the player THE FRACK OUT with his eyes rolling back before he even hit the ground.
It was obvious on replays it was not intentional by the pitcher; he slipped on the mound.
Don't remember the teams unfortunately or the players involved.
The batter was okay a few innings later.

Call my sense of humor 'sick' or 'warped' but I distinctly remember laughing uncontrollably for almost fifteen minutes after this and thinking about the relevance of this to the Wacky Package.

As an added side note to Jeffyjeep, in all my many years as an Electrical Engineer, I have NEVER ONCE had to use ANY of the Calculus I was forced to take courses in during College.
In my opinion it was a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME and would never be used unless specializing in R&D.
The collegiate curriculum needs to be drastically revised to where the ONLY courses that should be required should directly apply to the chosen major/career field, especially with the astronomical cost per credit hour.
One should be able to get a Bachelor's degree with HALF the credit hours required.
I took MANY courses that were a required waste of time for both BS in Engineering and Business Administration. The days of the 'luxury' of 'well-rounding' collegiate education are LONG over.

kurtschachner
01-24-2015, 07:45 PM
Reminds me of Plop! magazine, I got a letter to the editor published in that one when I was about 10.

Plop! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plop!)

The goofy 'product' ones were Wacky Packages by Topps.
They are still made every few years and I still collect them.
See my 'Beanball' Icon/Logo by my name.
That is my FAVORITE Wacky Package of all time; I think that one first appeared in like 1973.

Joe Wooten
01-24-2015, 08:16 PM
As an added side note to Jeffyjeep, in all my many years as an Electrical Engineer, I have NEVER ONCE had to use ANY of the Calculus I was forced to take courses in during College.
In my opinion it was a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME and would never be used unless specializing in R&D.
The collegiate curriculum needs to be drastically revised to where the ONLY courses that should be required should directly apply to the chosen major/career field, especially with the astronomical cost per credit hour.
One should be able to get a Bachelor's degree with HALF the credit hours required.
I took MANY courses that were a required waste of time for both BS in Engineering and Business Administration. The days of the 'luxury' of 'well-rounding' collegiate education are LONG over.

I'd agree with a lot of that, especially the useless liberal arts courses. Technical writing is a must though. Calculus, though most engineers will not use it very much, is still a must for a true understanding and grounding in physics. In 35 years as a mechanical engineer, I can count on one hand the times I've used calculus in a work related calculation. Hell, most of my work is in thermal hydraulic analysis and heat transfer. The basic equations in fluid mechanics and thermo are calculus based, but the empirical relationships developed for quick engineering work are much quicker. Heat transfer is even worse as the basic equations are partial differentials, but again, the empirical experimentally derived equations are faster, and in many cases, more accurate.

Closet Astronaut
01-24-2015, 08:31 PM
The goofy 'product' ones were Wacky Packages by Topps.
They are still made every few years and I still collect them.
See my 'Beanball' Icon/Logo by my name.
That is my FAVORITE Wacky Package of all time; I think that one first appeared in like 1973.

OH WOW! Wacky Packages, I totally forgot about those, I never paid attention to your avatar, too small and blurry. Man I've been sitting here laughing my a88 off looking at these, of course my wife has never seen them before being German, she's laughing too.

ghrocketman
01-24-2015, 08:46 PM
There was a later version of the parody on Eveready instead of Neverready it became EverDeady.
I think I have both somewhere.

Hawaiian Punks is hilarious too.

ALPOO is another good one that is an Alpo parody.

Oscar MORON Bacon is good also.

I seem to recall either Mangler and/or Strangler Jeans as a parody on Wrangler Jeans as well.

dlazarus6660
01-25-2015, 08:49 AM
OMG

ghrocketman can hold a conversation without including fecal matter in the subject! :eek:

KUTGW

ghrocketman
01-25-2015, 12:03 PM
Yes, but it features the humorous subject of Wacky Packages !

dlazarus6660
01-25-2015, 02:31 PM
I just realized I hijacked this thread! Goody for me! :rolleyes:

ghrocketman
01-25-2015, 03:42 PM
I actually keep an original Topps "BEANBALL" Wacky Package in a sleeve on my refrigerator door !
I failed to mention the players 'bat' is actually curved/bent in a semi-banana like shape too.

foamy
01-26-2015, 08:23 AM
I guess I was a bit late for them (I was in high-school in the early '70's). I did, however, catch these "Weird-Ohs" when I was a kid. "Davey" graced my 3-ring binder in early elementary school. Had a couple of the kits, but wasn't much of a modeler back then. I do have "Freddy Flame-out" painted but not put together somewhere in the attic. I should have a look for that.

Thinking about it; we did have these sorta monster-like stickers when I was a kid. "Bob" is an example I just found on the webs. I have "Syd" on a notebook from third grade. "Ugly Stickers."

jeffyjeep
01-26-2015, 03:48 PM
Awesome collection of Weird-Ohs! They would probably frighten many of today's kids.

"Aaaaaaagh!!, Daddy! That 'Weird-Oh' just winked at 'My Little Pony'!!!!"

"Go back to sleep, Johnny". :D

jeffyjeep
01-26-2015, 04:03 PM
I was sitting at the table today...with my red head... and she was bringing out her collection of hot wheels and said "I will giver you a quiz" she wanted me to identify the cars with out looking at the bottom, well hey, I'm up for that challenge. While I was naming the cars I flashed back to my child hood, remembering when I was about eight and nine my step mothers brother (a year younger) and me would take off for the two mile hike down to the Speedy's convenient store loaded with our two dollar a week allowance, where I would get my bag of Taco flavored Doritos, 32 oz bottle of Coke and of course a couple of packs of Odd Rods bubble gum card, stickers. I can still remember smelling the pack when opened, the smell of the bubble gum mixed with the aroma of the plastic card and adhesive backing mmmm...mmm.

How many old timers out there remember these? Boy..time were sure simpler then.
Great thread!
I never really got into the "gravity powered" Hot Wheels cars--especially since a standard length of my brother's Hot Wheels track was the "weapon of choice" when mom found it necessary to administer a good whuppin' on us miscreants.

In her deft hand, that egg-yolk yellow track would "sing" through the air and her aim was deadly--even if we were running in circles. She knew we'd had enough when our fannies looked like two Jap flags.

Anyway, my choice for Hot Wheels were the rechargeable "Sizzlers" cars, "Chopcycles" 3-wheeled motorbikes, and the (exceedingly rare) "Earthshakers" bulldozer. IIRC they all used the same battery-filled faux gas pump for recharging. The "Sizzlers" cars could run on a standard Hot Wheels track, but I believe the "Chopcycles" and "Earthshaker" were wider and could not.

ghrocketman
01-27-2015, 01:52 AM
Jeffy, I'm not sure that your Mom was participating in a Mattel-approved use of their Hot Wheels track.
If you would have replaced the word Mom with Girlfriend or Wife, I'm SURE the usage would have been NOT approved.

I was fortunately NEVER a 'miscreant' as a child; I and my brother were more of the Hoodlum or Hooligan flavors.

Mom was a good egg though. She used the line of "Just wait til your Father gets home" but almost never ratted us out. My brother, Father, and I lost Mom when she was WAY too young; she was only 50 (only 6 years older than I am now, and my girlfriend's current age) when we lost her to the big C.
The big C sucks fecal matter !

jeffyjeep
01-27-2015, 07:46 AM
GH, thanks for sharing. 50 is WAY too young!

We lost our mom in 2004, not to cancer, but rather to internal and external scleroderma (hardening of the skin and of soft tissues.) There is no cure, but she fought the good fight and mercifully died in hospice.

ghrocketman
01-27-2015, 09:39 AM
My Mom beat the big C in 1973, but it came back in a different form in late 1997.
She did well for a while, but it metastasized to the brain. To this day, I blame her quack family doctor that mis diagnosed it for about 3 months. Turns out it was one of the more 'treatable/curable' forms of cancer if treated early enough.
Just lost a 37 year old cousin a month and a half ago that had bladder cancer misdiagnosed as bladder infections for 6 months although his pain level kept increasing to the level of total debilitation. It spread to his bones and brain and it was all over. Other doctors blamed the spread on the delayed diagnosis; go figure.

I no longer have near the respect/trust for Physicians that I once did.
I have learned to question everything coming from the medical community if what they say to me does not seem right. I have a poker buddy that also happens to be a M.D. as well and I'm sure I would not trust him further than treating a common cold.

Rocketflyer
01-27-2015, 09:56 AM
Gh, I'm very sorry for your loss. I lost a younger sister to the big C. She was only 49. My mother beat breast cancer, but is now in the throes of dementia, sometimes here, others times not, with wicked mood swings. I never knew my mother could out cuss a truck driver or sailor. I do now. :chuckle: The big c is a real PITA, foe all and their family. My wife beat breast cancer as well. I was one scared a$$ dude when I heard. I wish it had been me instead of her. Hold close to all whom you hold dear. Best to you.

Jack

Scott6060842
01-27-2015, 10:04 AM
My Mother also used Hot Wheels track to swat us kids ... stung, but nothing like Dads belt.

ghrocketman
01-27-2015, 10:31 AM
I lost another cousin to cancer back in 1975 when she was only 15. The cancer she had back then is now 100% curable.
Currently I have a friend from high school that is battling breast cancer. She beat it back for a couple years and now returned as some lesions, that have been successfully treated.
Cancer is a very insidious disease that treats the body in a very rotten manner.
Don't even get me started on theories why the Big-Pharma industry does not want to cure all forms. Money controls ALL no matter what in the USA and I firmly believe that.

One thing that I learned by my Mom passing back at age 50 is that you should live for TODAY instead of some goal 30 years in the future you never may reach.

luke strawwalker
01-27-2015, 10:41 AM
My Mom beat the big C in 1973, but it came back in a different form in late 1997.
She did well for a while, but it metastasized to the brain. To this day, I blame her quack family doctor that mis diagnosed it for about 3 months. Turns out it was one of the more 'treatable/curable' forms of cancer if treated early enough.
Just lost a 37 year old cousin a month and a half ago that had bladder cancer misdiagnosed as bladder infections for 6 months although his pain level kept increasing to the level of total debilitation. It spread to his bones and brain and it was all over. Other doctors blamed the spread on the delayed diagnosis; go figure.

I no longer have near the respect/trust for Physicians that I once did.
I have learned to question everything coming from the medical community if what they say to me does not seem right. I have a poker buddy that also happens to be a M.D. as well and I'm sure I would not trust him further than treating a common cold.

This is always a good idea... my MIL died a few years ago-- she'd been suffering for years with what they said was psoriasis. Turns out it was a rare form of skin cancer. She took psoriasis meds for several years with little effect (go figure) and would come down to Texas during February so she could "sit out in the sun" in our warm winters (compared to northern Indiana) and get some sun compared to being in the cold, dark, dreary doldrums of winter up north. They only found out what it was about a week before she died, because they FINALLY sent some tissue samples to the Mayo clinic who actually made the diagnosis. It's really a shame because if she'd been diagnosed earlier and gotten the correct treatment, she might still be with us.

I don't trust doctors any further than I can throw them, either. It's always a good idea to see a specialist if you have a specific problem. Usually you have to go through your general practitioner to get there, but I don't really trust most GP's for anything other than ingrown toenails, colds, infections, etc... IOW, if *I* know what's wrong, I trust them to "fix" it...

Even then, you have to keep a skeptical eye and get a second opinion... I had a long run-in with a total quack last year...

For years, my eyelids have been getting lower and lower... my right eyelid was covering half my pupil... my optometrist had suggested for about the last five years that I get minor surgery to tighten up my eyelid muscles and remove excess fatty tissue to reduce the bagginess of the upper eyelid so I could see better... but I never really wanted to do it... it wasn't really bothering my vision that I could tell, or else I was "tuning out" the reduction and was just "used to it". Thing is, in the last year or two, I really started to notice the fact that I was only seeing out of the 'lower half' of my right eye, and my left eye was getting strained trying to "take up the slack", so I finally decided to do it.

Well, first I had to decide who to go to... We're about 45 miles outside Houston, so naturally most referrals are to doctors in Houston, and I absolutely DESPISE going into Houston at all if I can possibly help it... so I didn't want a doctor in Houston. I finally found an eye doctor out in Bay City and heard he was pretty good, and went to him. Well, as it turned out, he did a bunch of testing, which is understandable, but then had to make a second appointment since one test he wanted they didn't do except one day a week... woulda been nice if he'd have scheduled me to come in on that day-- not like they didn't know what I was coming in for! Of course, they cannot screw you out of a second appointment fee if they do it all at once and get it over with. Then when I came in, he redid some tests again anyway, so most of what we did at the first appointment was worthless anyway. Then they scheduled me for a third appointment, so he could "look over the results" and come back with a diagnosis. (All this for a visibly drooping eyelid, no less). So we come back a couple weeks later and he hand-waves off the eyelid concerns, and starts talking about having to do immediate laser surgery on my eye to burn a hole it in to "relieve the pressure" since he says my eye pressure is up and he has what HE calls "pre-glaucoma" (there is no such thing from the other doctors I've talked to-- glaucoma is like being pregnant-- either you have it or you don't!) This 10-minute procedure is "totally safe" (unless you move) and will burn a small hole in the wall of the eye to allow fluid pressure to escape, but will have to be re-done about every 5-10 years. When I asked about why take a surgical approach to fix something that could be addressed by glaucoma medication (since my grandmother and granddad both had glaucoma) he said he "didn't want to start me on meds at my age..." (43). When I asked about the drooping eyelid and correcting that, he simply said, "oh, the insurance won't pay for that anyway, so there's no need in bothering with that..." By this point, I had pretty much figured out I was dealing with an insurance scammer in a lab coat... He wasn't interested in fixing the problem that I had and had come to him to address, since it wasn't likely to be insurable anyway... instead he "finds" some problem that IS an insured fix so he can collect the money. I'd had enough.

I did what I SHOULD have done to start with-- went to the eye surgeon that had corrected my mother's detached retina and my grandmothers eye problems (both grandmothers) years before... although it meant a 60 mile plus drive to appointments. I went to see Dr. Grady down in Lake Jackson and of course, we started from scratch. They did the usual eye exam before the peripheral vision testing to determine the amount of vision limitation due to the droopy eyelid, and guess what-- there was no 'excessive pressure' and no "pre-glaucoma"... I asked in a round-about way about my eye pressure, which was completely normal, before I discussed the situation and why I was asking about it. They even double-checked to make sure. He was confident that he could get the insurance to pay for the procedure since it was affecting my vision, and he did. Had the surgery to tighten the muscles and I can see MUCH better now. Insurance crawfished on the skin tightening part to remove the fatty tissue above the eyelid so I'd have to pay for that out of pocket... truck repairs early in the year have deferred that since they ate up $1100 of the $1300 the surgery would have cost. I can see and it's not really problem so I kinda hate to get cut more just for "looks" (according to the insurance anyway), so I probably won't bother having that done unless/until it starts to give me trouble...

With this "gubmint medicine" now under Nobamacare, you can expect for ALL this sort of thing to get much, MUCH worse... Cancer is going to be an instant death sentence, because just like the VA, by the time you actually see a doctor and get a diagnosis and then get scheduled for treatment, by that time it'll have spread and eat you up and you'll be at death's door anyway... BUT, at least "we all have insurance now"... nevermind that it'll be WORTHLESS...

Can't have everything... One thing's for sure... there isn't a system that's been devised yet that folks haven't figured out how to make a killing off of, cheat, or "work around"...

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
01-27-2015, 10:48 AM
I lost another cousin to cancer back in 1975 when she was only 15. The cancer she had back then is now 100% curable.
Currently I have a friend from high school that is battling breast cancer. She beat it back for a couple years and now returned as some lesions, that have been successfully treated.
Cancer is a very insidious disease that treats the body in a very rotten manner.
Don't even get me started on theories why the Big-Pharma industry does not want to cure all forms. Money controls ALL no matter what in the USA and I firmly believe that.

One thing that I learned by my Mom passing back at age 50 is that you should live for TODAY instead of some goal 30 years in the future you never may reach.

VERY true... and VERY good advice!

My old man used to work with a guy and his wife at the nuke plant... they were both in I&T (instruments and testing) and made a FORTUNE working outages, moving from one plant outage to another to another, in a constant rotation. They lived EXTREMELY cheaply-- they NEVER went out to eat, drove an old beater car, stayed in cheap apartments during the outages, etc. Even a McDonald's burger was a "special occasion" type deal only once or twice a year; they'd NEVER go to a nice restaurant... The two of them decided to live ultra-cheap and save every penny they made possible, and retire at 45 and then live high on the hog, travel the world, etc...

Course, the problem was, she got cancer at about age 40... after a long, very expensive battle with the disease over a few years, she died... Her husband was left penniless-- it took everything they'd ever made and saved to pay for her treatments and meds and tests and appointments and all that... then she died anyway. Her husband was SO depressed by the loss of his wife and the utter collapse of all their dreams, their savings, etc. that he killed himself a few months later.

EXTREMELY sad... better to live for today and enjoy life while you have it... there's no promise it'll be there tomorrow... They could have lived very well and comfortably and STILL saved for a nice retirement later on, and enjoyed life while they still had it...

Later! OL JR :)

ghrocketman
01-27-2015, 11:18 AM
My mom passing almost pushed my Dad over the edge, but all is well.
He retired a few years ago at age 65 and has a VERY good pension, he married a family friend from HS that was on my Mom's care staff during her Cancer treatments.
They now travel around the world several times a year.

Thankfully my Mom/Dad had VERY good health insurance when she got sick.
He spent every day and night at her bedside when she was hospitalized.
I was able to work part-time back then to help my Dad take care of Mom when she was home.

Rocketflyer
01-27-2015, 12:18 PM
Those old cards remind me of Ed Roth's "Rat Fink" drawings. http://www.ratfink.com/ed-roth-cars.php. He was big in the hot rod era of the early 60's, and I couldn't wait to get the next Rod and Custom Magazine. For the military buffs, check out the 145th FA section. Too cool.

Closet Astronaut
01-27-2015, 08:35 PM
I find it quite intriguing that this thread has taken a turn towards health. My step Father just died a little over a week ago with congestive heart failure, the really sad thing is I have just come across knowledge that could have saved him if I would have found out about it just a couple of years earlier.

A little back ground. I have spent years and thousands of dollars on books, supplements, products of all sorts, herbs, vitamins, reading articles watching documentaries you name it. I even have been an Herbal life distributor. Back in early 2000 work was slowing down in the telecom industry I found my self with quite a bit of time on my hands. I was searching for work from home business and came across Herbal Life, I was quite over weight at the time pushing 240, long story short, I got on the products and lost thiry pounds in the first three months and continued to loose for another two, I got down to 185 in five months. The problem is I was always hungry and gained almost all the weight back with in two years after quiting the products. They worked for a while but Herbal life doesn't address the real problem that causes weight gain.

It only takes a little observation, just a little looking around at the current health situation of this country to see that the medical profession has failed miserably, the U.S. ranks 60th in the *world* for long jevity...60th. America has the highest rate of obesity in the world, and every other cronic disease, that should tell you some thing. Not one single disease has been cured in my life time, even some of those that were previously eradicated are returning, even after all the billions that have been spent on research. Big Pharma makes billions every year and kills thousands every year. There is cause and effect, the current medical industry doesn't look for cause, their philosophy is "if you get sick you're screwed, cause and effect.

Every member I've read here strikes me as problem solvers, if your rocket malfunctions you search for the cause of the failure, address and correct the cause, eliminate the failure. It's no different with the human body. If your car runs low on oil do you put a quart of water in the crank case because you don't want to spend six bucks on a quart of oil? Believe it or not your body grew it self all by it's self from one tiny cell, your bones repair themselves after a break, your skin heals itself after a cut, so why do people believe the body can't cure it self from all the cronic diseases that are rampant today. If your house is damaged in a storm what do you need to repair it? Materials. What kind of materials? Wood, sheet rock, joint compound, nails, screws, brick, mortar, tools. The body is the same way, it also needs the basic building blocks, materials and tools to repair it self. Dr. Linus Pauling, (a highly reguarded American chemist, biochemist, molecular biologist and Nobel Prize winner) said " You can trace EVERY disease and cronic aliment to a mineral deficiency". Obesity is caused buy mineral deficiency, in a word, we are starving to death, it's really that simple.

As stated earlier I've spend endless dollars and time researching and trying every thing, eating healthy, fruit, veggies, venison, organic beef and still battled weight and still always hungry. You could not eat enough fruit and veggies to supply the body with all it needs, especially with all the stress that is put on the body in todays world. The reason is, ( and I'm sure Jeff could weigh in on this) our ground is depleted of minerals and nutrients. One must also understand that minerals run in veins through the ground, if one has a hundred acre crop the iron content in the vegetable from the south end of the field will not be the same as the iron content from what comes from the north end, so even eating organic does not guarantee higher nutrition. I'm sure all here that are familiar with live stock, horses, cows, know what cribbing is, when you see a horse or cow eating the fence posts, chewing on fence railings or the feed trough this is cribbing, the cause of this, mineral deficiency, the rancher will do what? put out salt blocks or add mineral alfalfa pellets to the diet which cures it. It's the same in humans, cravings, standing in front of the fridge saying, "I want to eat some thing but don't know what" thats your body saying, " Hey! we're short on materials here, go eat some thing".

Here's a kicker, himorrhoids are caused by copper deficiency, kindney stones, calcuim deficiency, RLS (restless leg sydrome) calcium deficiency, congestive heart failure, selenium deficiency. Calcium deficiency causes a WHOLE HOST of cronic diseases. Muscular distrophy, selenium deficiency. Speaking of which, how many here remember the Muscular Distrophy telethon that used to come on every labor day, the Jerry Lewis MD telethon, ever notice it's not on any more, and the last two years it was there was no Jerry Lewis, the reason, Dr. Joel Wallach developed a protocol with diet and selenium that cures it, he was feeding the test results and information to Jerry Lewis, well J.L. went to the MD foundation board showing them the results and the treatment and he was subsequently fired, threatened, and sent on a cruse. Hmm, Go figure, can't be cutting in on all that money we're suckering from the public.

I have battled low energy for about five years, heard a spot on the radio one morning talking about low T, did some research on low T symptoms and WOW described me to a T, (no pun intended) it's know as Irritable Male Syndrome, go on line and see if it doesn't describe what some here I know are feeling. Any way, went to my Holistic Dr. and did the blood test, sure enough lower 30%, BUT not even he inquired about the cause, he put me on a Yam derived testosterone troche which worked for a while, we increased the dosage three time, then went to the cream which did NOTHING. So the search and research for energy continued.

Don't believe what I'm saying? Do some research, check out Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Pete Glidden, I'm including some links. BTW, I started on plant derived mineral three and a half weeks ago and went on the full 90 (60 minerals, 16 vitamins, 12 amino acids 7 essential fatty acids) two weeks ago at 222lb and have dropped 10 lbs in just two and a half weeks...and NOT HUNGRY! AND energy levels back in full force.

There are smart, problem solving people here, educate your selves gentlemen, you don't have to suffer and continue to make the MD's rich, if you are continuing to use your MD's hows it been working for you. I'm 50 years old and not taking a single medication, blood pressure perfect, no hypoglycemia. I have a friend who had hypertension, sky rocket blood pressure, and had several small mini strokes, after he started on the minerals in two weeks his blood pressure was normal, and has regained his mental sharpness. With all the information available to us today there's no excuse fro ingnorance.

If there are any questions PM me, I'm an insider on Gliddens web site and have access to recorded and live webinars on most any health subject.

http://youtu.be/Hnq-DzJuhw4?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P12fES-t6_v9RZbXaaznFac

http://youtu.be/B9lLP-KzCZE?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P12fES-t6_v9RZbXaaznFac

Glidden weight loss webinar..

https://connectpro84292131.adobeconnect.com/_a993364313/p5b3l2elzmz/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal

luke strawwalker
01-28-2015, 03:42 PM
My mom passing almost pushed my Dad over the edge, but all is well.
He retired a few years ago at age 65 and has a VERY good pension, he married a family friend from HS that was on my Mom's care staff during her Cancer treatments.
They now travel around the world several times a year.

Thankfully my Mom/Dad had VERY good health insurance when she got sick.
He spent every day and night at her bedside when she was hospitalized.
I was able to work part-time back then to help my Dad take care of Mom when she was home.

Man that sucks... sorry for your loss.

At least a bad situation wasn't made any worse by poor/crappy insurance. Sounds like things worked out about the best they could in that situation...

Have a good one! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
01-28-2015, 04:06 PM
I find it quite intriguing that this thread has taken a turn towards health. My step Father just died a little over a week ago with congestive heart failure, the really sad thing is I have just come across knowledge that could have saved him if I would have found out about it just a couple of years earlier.

It only takes a little observation, just a little looking around at the current health situation of this country to see that the medical profession has failed miserably, the U.S. ranks 60th in the *world* for long jevity...60th. America has the highest rate of obesity in the world, and every other cronic disease, that should tell you some thing. Not one single disease has been cured in my life time, even some of those that were previously eradicated are returning, even after all the billions that have been spent on research. Big Pharma makes billions every year and kills thousands every year. There is cause and effect, the current medical industry doesn't look for cause, their philosophy is "if you get sick you're screwed, cause and effect.

Every member I've read here strikes me as problem solvers, if your rocket malfunctions you search for the cause of the failure, address and correct the cause, eliminate the failure. It's no different with the human body. If your car runs low on oil do you put a quart of water in the crank case because you don't want to spend six bucks on a quart of oil? Believe it or not your body grew it self all by it's self from one tiny cell, your bones repair themselves after a break, your skin heals itself after a cut, so why do people believe the body can't cure it self from all the cronic diseases that are rampant today. If your house is damaged in a storm what do you need to repair it? Materials. What kind of materials? Wood, sheet rock, joint compound, nails, screws, brick, mortar, tools. The body is the same way, it also needs the basic building blocks, materials and tools to repair it self. Dr. Linus Pauling, (a highly reguarded American chemist, biochemist, molecular biologist and Nobel Prize winner) said " You can trace EVERY disease and cronic aliment to a mineral deficiency". Obesity is caused buy mineral deficiency, in a word, we are starving to death, it's really that simple.

As stated earlier I've spend endless dollars and time researching and trying every thing, eating healthy, fruit, veggies, venison, organic beef and still battled weight and still always hungry. You could not eat enough fruit and veggies to supply the body with all it needs, especially with all the stress that is put on the body in todays world. The reason is, ( and I'm sure Jeff could weigh in on this) our ground is depleted of minerals and nutrients. One must also understand that minerals run in veins through the ground, if one has a hundred acre crop the iron content in the vegetable from the south end of the field will not be the same as the iron content from what comes from the north end, so even eating organic does not guarantee higher nutrition. I'm sure all here that are familiar with live stock, horses, cows, know what cribbing is, when you see a horse or cow eating the fence posts, chewing on fence railings or the feed trough this is cribbing, the cause of this, mineral deficiency, the rancher will do what? put out salt blocks or add mineral alfalfa pellets to the diet which cures it. It's the same in humans, cravings, standing in front of the fridge saying, "I want to eat some thing but don't know what" thats your body saying, " Hey! we're short on materials here, go eat some thing".

Here's a kicker, himorrhoids are caused by copper deficiency, kindney stones, calcuim deficiency, RLS (restless leg sydrome) calcium deficiency, congestive heart failure, selenium deficiency. Calcium deficiency causes a WHOLE HOST of cronic diseases. Muscular distrophy, selenium deficiency. Speaking of which, how many here remember the Muscular Distrophy telethon that used to come on every labor day, the Jerry Lewis MD telethon, ever notice it's not on any more, and the last two years it was there was no Jerry Lewis, the reason, Dr. Joel Wallach developed a protocol with diet and selenium that cures it, he was feeding the test results and information to Jerry Lewis, well J.L. went to the MD foundation board showing them the results and the treatment and he was subsequently fired, threatened, and sent on a cruse. Hmm, Go figure, can't be cutting in on all that money we're suckering from the public.

I have battled low energy for about five years, heard a spot on the radio one morning talking about low T, did some research on low T symptoms and WOW described me to a T, (no pun intended) it's know as Irritable Male Syndrome, go on line and see if it doesn't describe what some here I know are feeling. Any way, went to my Holistic Dr. and did the blood test, sure enough lower 30%, BUT not even he inquired about the cause, he put me on a Yam derived testosterone troche which worked for a while, we increased the dosage three time, then went to the cream which did NOTHING. So the search and research for energy continued.

Don't believe what I'm saying? Do some research, check out Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Pete Glidden, I'm including some links. BTW, I started on plant derived mineral three and a half weeks ago and went on the full 90 (60 minerals, 16 vitamins, 12 amino acids 7 essential fatty acids) two weeks ago at 222lb and have dropped 10 lbs in just two and a half weeks...and NOT HUNGRY! AND energy levels back in full force.

There are smart, problem solving people here, educate your selves gentlemen, you don't have to suffer and continue to make the MD's rich, if you are continuing to use your MD's hows it been working for you. I'm 50 years old and not taking a single medication, blood pressure perfect, no hypoglycemia. I have a friend who had hypertension, sky rocket blood pressure, and had several small mini strokes, after he started on the minerals in two weeks his blood pressure was normal, and has regained his mental sharpness. With all the information available to us today there's no excuse fro ingnorance.

If there are any questions PM me, I'm an insider on Gliddens web site and have access to recorded and live webinars on most any health subject.

http://youtu.be/Hnq-DzJuhw4?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P12fES-t6_v9RZbXaaznFac

http://youtu.be/Hnq-DzJuhw4?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P12fES-t6_v9RZbXaaznFac

Glidden weight loss webinar..

https://connectpro84292131.adobeconnect.com/_a993364313/p5b3l2elzmz/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal

Interesting stuff, to be sure... what is it you're taking now?? My old man was taking BarleyGreen for a couple years and sea minerals, but quit when it got too expensive. Dunno if it was helping him much or not, with all the health problems he has... (post-polio syndrome and too many others to list).

In a similar vein to what you were talking about with the crops and livestock stuff... this is a true story...

I read about a study that (IIRC) Texas A&M did years ago... they took a pasture and sprayed it with something to "lock up" (IIRC) soil magnesium... (I think it was magnesium IIRC, been a long while since I read this, so it could have been potassium or some other soil mineral). Anyway, this essential mineral was "locked up" in the soil chemically and so the grass the cattle were feeding on became badly deficient in this mineral as well, and whatever feed the cattle got brought in on this field was also similarly treated chemically to lock up whatever mineral was in it, so as to deprive the livestock of this essential mineral nutrient.

Pretty soon, after a few weeks or so IIRC, field workers started noticing dead and badly mangled rabbits in the field. At first they thought that they had coyotes or some other predators suddenly infiltrating the area and killing inordinate numbers of wild rabbits, but the mangled appearance of the rabbits and lack of evidence of predators precluded that possibility. On further investigation, the found that the CATTLE were chasing down and stomping the rabbits to death, and then using their limited dentition (cattle have no upper teeth in the front of their mouths, only in the back) were ripping the dead rabbits up and consuming what they could of their meat, blood, and organs, in order to obtain the essential mineral they could NOT get in their diet of grass on the field (since it was chemically bound up in a non-biologically absorbable way, thus preventing them from getting the mineral via grass or weeds in the pasture). The rabbits were coming in from other fields or passing through the field and thus were attacked by the cattle as a source of the badly needed mineral they could not get any other way. The cattle had turned CARNIVOROUS to get the minerals they needed and couldn't obtain any other way...

SO, it stands to reason that humans would have similar "instincts" to overfeed or seek other forms of food to obtain needed minerals or nutrients that they weren't otherwise getting in their diets...

Later! OL JR :)

Closet Astronaut
01-28-2015, 05:44 PM
Interesting stuff, to be sure... what is it you're taking now?? My old man was taking BarleyGreen for a couple years and sea minerals, but quit when it got too expensive. Dunno if it was helping him much or not, with all the health problems he has... (post-polio syndrome and too many others to list).

I started on Yougevity's plant derived minerals first to see if there was any effect. These are all based on body weight for basic requirements One oz for every hundred pounds of body weight per day, so two hundred pounds = two oz's, but for cronic problems they use treatment dosing so knowing that I am terribly deficient I upped the dosage to six oz's a day, two oz's three times a day. Of course this was only the sixty minerals, I didn't start on the full 90 until a week later, I enrolled with Youngevity, it's only ten bucks and gives me access to the distributor site, and the 30% discount. I'm seeing a loss of 1 1/2 to 2 lbs every three days steady. Now you have to take into account I've cut out the ten bad foods, increased salt intake, use real butter to cook with and try to eat at least four eggs a day. Remember, MD's will tell you don't take vitamins and minerals you could over dose, to give a little perspective here, I'm taking the Osteo FX liquid calcium four to six oz'x a day, to OD on this for a 100lb person you would have to drink 70- 32 oz bottles a day.

Ten bad foods :

https://connectpro84292131.adobeconnect.com/_a993364313/p7ovnoq0mcy/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal

In a similar vein to what you were talking about with the crops and livestock stuff... this is a true story...

I read about a study that (IIRC) Texas A&M did years ago... they took a pasture and sprayed it with something to "lock up" (IIRC) soil magnesium... (I think it was magnesium IIRC, been a long while since I read this, so it could have been potassium or some other soil mineral). Anyway, this essential mineral was "locked up" in the soil chemically and so the grass the cattle were feeding on became badly deficient in this mineral as well, and whatever feed the cattle got brought in on this field was also similarly treated chemically to lock up whatever mineral was in it, so as to deprive the livestock of this essential mineral nutrient.

Pretty soon, after a few weeks or so IIRC, field workers started noticing dead and badly mangled rabbits in the field. At first they thought that they had coyotes or some other predators suddenly infiltrating the area and killing inordinate numbers of wild rabbits, but the mangled appearance of the rabbits and lack of evidence of predators precluded that possibility. On further investigation, the found that the CATTLE were chasing down and stomping the rabbits to death, and then using their limited dentition (cattle have no upper teeth in the front of their mouths, only in the back) were ripping the dead rabbits up and consuming what they could of their meat, blood, and organs, in order to obtain the essential mineral they could NOT get in their diet of grass on the field (since it was chemically bound up in a non-biologically absorbable way, thus preventing them from getting the mineral via grass or weeds in the pasture). The rabbits were coming in from other fields or passing through the field and thus were attacked by the cattle as a source of the badly needed mineral they could not get any other way. The cattle had turned CARNIVOROUS to get the minerals they needed and couldn't obtain any other way...

SO, it stands to reason that humans would have similar "instincts" to overfeed or seek other forms of food to obtain needed minerals or nutrients that they weren't otherwise getting in their diets...

Later! OL JR :)

I bought Dr. Wallachs book (Epigenetics) and the story you describe sounds almost like one of the situations he came across years ago. He covers the gambit in this book, the history and evolution of medicine all the way back to Egypt, actually it's quite intriguing, seems the Egyptians had it going on back in the day, like King Solomon said, "There's nothing new under the Sun". This man is truly impressive and his credentials are impeccable. The results Dr.s Glidden and Wallach have seen are beyond impressive. There's just WAY too much information for me to put into a post.

Spend the time watching the seminars, if nothing else you will come away with a priceless education.

Epigenetics Health webinar: http://youtu.be/FTP9Gkj-gM8

Closet Astronaut
02-03-2015, 06:38 PM
As peviously stated, educate yourselves gentlemen, you don't have to suffer.

The Sorceries of Babylon
http://youtu.be/-d39pZbczVE?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P12fES-t6_v9RZbXaaznFac

Russell-Blaylock ~ Fluoride's Deadly Secret...there's more info here than just flouride.
http://youtu.be/fB3xcN_eoPo?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P12fES-t6_v9RZbXaaznFac

Closet Astronaut
02-28-2015, 05:59 PM
I thought I'd post this video on this thread for two reasons. I was intrigued by how this thread continued to grow well after going to page two, the views increased by over 150 after my last post and not a single response, argument or alternative opinion, especially from this group. And since it had gone in this direction. I also didn't want to hijack the other thread already honoring a sci- fi legend which I also have admired for years.

I stated before, being an insider and student of Dr. Joel Wallach and Dr. Pete Glidden, the latter also being a fan of Leonard Nimoy. He has just weighed in on this sad loss. Mr. Nimoy has joined an ever growing list of well recognized people that have fallen victim of the current inept medical matrix. Leonard Nimoy, Neil Armstrong, Dick Clark, Andy Roonie, Bob Funderburk (my step father) and the thousands of unknown people every day. The biggest tragedy of this whole thing is it just doesn't have to happen.

http://youtu.be/k3s-v0CJCq8

http://youtu.be/16LRP52RKdo

I'm sorry, I had to come back, I couldn't resist. Earl's got a handle on it.
Earl Pitts American
http://youtu.be/U2duPI9AwZ8

Closet Astronaut
03-23-2015, 06:46 PM
Still seems to be an interest here so here's the science behind it.

This is time well spent.

https://youtu.be/3tQuDjAxTVE?list=PLC2rp2ckM_P3wx778cpHwpwDuaNvNAqnT