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tmacklin
02-26-2015, 03:06 PM
While we ponder a mission to Mars, universal birth control and the price of tea in China, our Emperor and his minions are busy dismantling the Constitution under the guise of "public safety".

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2560750

or this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-net-neutrality-fcc-vote-20150226-story.html#page=1

Whatcha gonna do when day come for you, bad boy, bad boy? :mad:

Closet Astronaut
02-26-2015, 06:14 PM
You think you don't recognize the country now, just wait another 18 months. lame duck presidency, no reelection to campaign for, spineless republicans, America hating dems, eminent collapse of the monetary system, corruption, corruption and more corruption. The US government is in severe need of an and enema.

You ain't seen nothing yet. What does this mean? http://youtu.be/0-JJuHpfN5g

SCE to AUX
02-26-2015, 08:34 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ammoban.asp

TL : DR The ban is an ATF action, which Obama had nothing to do with. No "executive order" or other presidential action has been issued.

tmacklin
02-26-2015, 09:10 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ammoban.asp

TL : DR The ban is an ATF action, which Obama had nothing to do with. No "executive order" or other presidential action has been issued.

Sure, just like the piano player in a bordello doesn't know what's going on upstairs. Eric "Fast & Furious" Holder is the most anti-Second amendment attorney general in the history of the United States and serves at the pleasure of this president. He is also the first attorney general to ever be held in contempt of congress.

The BATFE (ATF) is an organ of the Justice Department and is subordinate to the Office of the Attorney General, headed by Holder until his successor is confirmed.

Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining!


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/235475-house-votes-holder-in-contempt-of-congress

mycrofte
02-28-2015, 06:36 AM
Uh... Let me guess, you line your hat with tin foil.
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Joe Wooten
02-28-2015, 06:52 AM
It's not paranoia if they are really out to get you......

tmacklin
02-28-2015, 08:20 AM
Ignorance is bliss.

Ironnerd
02-28-2015, 10:01 AM
What, exactly should we do about this? Vote Republican? That's worked pretty well lately.

tmacklin
02-28-2015, 10:12 AM
Voting alone will no solve the problem regardless of who one votes for. Democrat, Republican or the No Nothing Party are distinctions without a difference in large measure. Stocking up on ammunition won't work either.

I personally believe that unless We the People hold these corrupt Bassturds feet to the fire, we are doomed. :mad:

Ironnerd
02-28-2015, 01:15 PM
They have reached the point where what we say no longer matters. They just keep doing whatever they want to do. We can show up and demonstrate all we want, they simply don't care. The constitution is largely ignored.

LINK (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-go-ahead-have-vote-whether-what-i-m-doing-legal-i-will-veto#n7WpC1:mBh)

He sounds nuts in that clip. Like some kind of dictator. Can you imagine George Bush saying that? Liberals (quite rightly) would call for his impeachment, and I would have joined them.

I honestly hope we are not approaching the "Blood of Tyrants" phase.

Joe Wooten
02-28-2015, 03:35 PM
You and me both. If it comes to that, it will not be a repeat of the Civil War, it will be more like Lebanon in 1979-1990.

tmacklin
02-28-2015, 03:58 PM
They have reached the point where what we say no longer matters. They just keep doing whatever they want to do. We can show up and demonstrate all we want, they simply don't care. The constitution is largely ignored.

LINK (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-go-ahead-have-vote-whether-what-i-m-doing-legal-i-will-veto#n7WpC1:mBh)

He sounds nuts in that clip. Like some kind of dictator. Can you imagine George Bush saying that? Liberals (quite rightly) would call for his impeachment, and I would have joined them.

I honestly hope we are not approaching the "Blood of Tyrants" phase.

Thanks for posting that. I watched the clip, which was more than enough. It clearly illustrates that the president views the congress with contempt and by extension, us. What absolutely amazes me is that there are people in that audience who are enthusiastically applauding this (what I am forbidden to say).

Ironnerd
02-28-2015, 05:05 PM
Yeah... that clip screams "Something is WRONG" from start to finish.

It also raises a question...

Does the president (generically speaking, not specifically President Obama) have the right to veto his own impeachment?

tmacklin
02-28-2015, 05:28 PM
Yeah... that clip screams "Something is WRONG" from start to finish.

It also raises a question...

Does the president (generically speaking, not specifically President Obama) have the right to veto his own impeachment?

That would be in violation of the separation of powers, would it not? But I don't think it would stop this particular president judging by his past history. I'm beginning to wonder if he will step aside when his term expires.

Ironnerd
02-28-2015, 05:34 PM
I have wondered about the same thing since his first term. I figured if the Democrats won a majority in the house and senate they would find some way to exempt Mr. Obama from the 22nd amendment.

I agree that it's a separation of powers issue, but I'm pretty sure this is as well.

A president oversteps his authority with an executive action
Congress agrees that it is an overstep.
The president then vetoes that Congresses decision that his executive action is an overstep.

Does that sound right at all?

tmacklin
02-28-2015, 06:24 PM
If a president decides that a Bill enacted by Congress should not become law, he/she/it can veto such Bill. If both houses of Congress decide that the Bill is worthy, they can override the president's veto and such Bill will become law. I believe to override a presidential veto requires a 2/3 majority of both houses.

Whether this particular president would comply with the Constitution is another question, and if he ignored it I doubt that this Congress possesses the gonads to proceed with impeachment. Perhaps a military coup is the only solution? :(

mycrofte
03-01-2015, 03:33 AM
When it comes to videos, I remember some of GW's fist shaking speeches being compared to film of Hitler speeches.

I'm thinking Obama does view congress with contempt because they are all payed corporate lobbyists. The last poll I saw showed congress only passes 12% of bills popular with the people. And 89% of the bills popular with corporations.
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tmacklin
03-01-2015, 10:35 AM
When it comes to videos, I remember some of GW's fist shaking speeches being compared to film of Hitler speeches.

I'm thinking Obama does view congress with contempt because they are all payed corporate lobbyists. The last poll I saw showed congress only passes 12% of bills popular with the people. And 89% of the bills popular with corporations.
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The fact that GW was intellectually challenged does not make BO a genius. What poll are you referring to?

tmacklin
03-01-2015, 11:03 AM
Maybe this will help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpbOEoRrHyU#t=32

ghrocketman
03-01-2015, 12:32 PM
I'd gladly see him or ANYONE else in the white house over another POS bushie.

kurtschachner
03-01-2015, 01:24 PM
That's the idiotic attitude that got us where we are today.

Peter Olivola
03-01-2015, 01:24 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ammoban.asp

tmacklin
03-01-2015, 01:43 PM
http://gunowners.org/

Closet Astronaut
03-01-2015, 04:30 PM
They have reached the point where what we say no longer matters. They just keep doing whatever they want to do. We can show up and demonstrate all we want, they simply don't care. The constitution is largely ignored.

LINK (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-go-ahead-have-vote-whether-what-i-m-doing-legal-i-will-veto#n7WpC1:mBh)

He sounds nuts in that clip. Like some kind of dictator. Can you imagine George Bush saying that? Liberals (quite rightly) would call for his impeachment, and I would have joined them.

I honestly hope we are not approaching the "Blood of Tyrants" phase.

I think BO's been watching too much Star Wars..

http://youtu.be/Z0Ti9NXc7CM