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blackshire
11-07-2015, 12:06 AM
Hello All,

Recently I had posted (and I thank everyone for their replies) about monopropellants that would be safe enough to power hobbyist liquid propellant rockets. This evening I came across another monopropellant, which will power DARPA's Boeing-built ALASA (Airborne Launch Assist Space Access) satellite launch vehicle (three website links, a reprint of an article about ALASA, and attached ALASA illustrations are included below). Also:

The monopropellant that will power this unusually-configured vehicle (it uses a -single- set of four forward-mounted rocket engines to power *both* of its two stages, and the first stage is simply a "drop tank") is a mixture of nitrous oxide and acetylene. If this mixture is sufficiently tractable, perhaps it is also safe enough to power hobbyist monopropellant liquid propellant rockets. I certainly hope so, because liquid propellant rockets would offer many additional options to model rocketeers (burn times tailored to flying field sizes would be just one of these), as well as provide scale realism for models of liquid propellant sounding rockets, missiles, and satellite launch vehicles. Has anyone ever experimented with hobbyist-size nitrous oxide/acetylene monopropellant rocket engines? Below are the links, the article, and the attached illustrations:

ALASA covered on Gunter Krebs' website: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/alasa.htm

ALASA article on Boeing's website: http://www.boeing.com/features/2014/03/bds-darpa-contract-03-27-14.page

ALASA article on wordlessTech website: http://wordlesstech.com/darpas-alasa-space-launch-system-from-airplane/

ALASA Boeing article reprint (below):

ALASA (Airborne Launch Assist Space Access) is a new satellite launch vehicle concept designed by Phantom Works Advanced Space Exploration for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

Under an 11-month, $30.6-million contract with options to build up to 12 of the 7.3 m vehicles, Boeing and DARPA intend to test the ability to cut the cost of routinely launching microsatellites into orbit by 66 percent. According to DARPA, ALASA aims to develop and employ radical advances in launch systems, leading to more affordable and responsive space access compared to current military and U.S. commercial launch operations.

The airlaunch rocket is designed in a very unusual way. The liquid fuel engines used for both the first and second stages are mounted in front of the first stage. The vehicle uses an unusual monopropellant mixture of nitrous oxide and acetylene as propellant for both stages.

The 7.3 meter ALASA vehicle is designed to attach under an unmodified F-15E aircraft. Once the airplane reaches approximately 12000 m, it would release the ALASA vehicle. The vehicle would then fire its four main engines and launch into low-Earth orbit to deploy one or more microsatellites weighing up to a total of 45 kilograms.

12 flights of the vehicle are planned for 2016.

tbzep
11-07-2015, 07:17 AM
Consumer acetylene is unstable at pressure so it is supplied to us dissolved in acetone. I'm not thinking it will be the best option for hobby rocketry. I don't know what the characteristics would be with it mixed in nitrous. Even if it is safe for a hobbiest to handle, it would have to be mixed at a professional facility and shipped with plenty of hazardous material fees.

Jerry Irvine
11-07-2015, 08:05 AM
I think you may see a shortage of static test movies for this propellant.

Also Nitrous Oxide and Acetylene are each detonable. See the Scaled Composites accident and that was just a flow test.

luke strawwalker
11-07-2015, 11:13 AM
Consumer acetylene is unstable at pressure so it is supplied to us dissolved in acetone. I'm not thinking it will be the best option for hobby rocketry. I don't know what the characteristics would be with it mixed in nitrous. Even if it is safe for a hobbiest to handle, it would have to be mixed at a professional facility and shipped with plenty of hazardous material fees.

Absolutely... How is a MIXTURE of acetylene and nitrous a monopropellant? Sounds extremely unstable.... Any spark-- KABOOM!!!!

Later OL JR

Jerry Irvine
11-07-2015, 05:01 PM
Absolutely... How is a MIXTURE of acetylene and nitrous a monopropellant? Sounds extremely unstable.... Any spark-- KABOOM!!!!If only that were true why no static test movies?

blackshire
11-07-2015, 10:43 PM
I thank you all very much for your comments. At first glance, ALASA's nitrous oxide/acetylene mixture monopropellant sounds rather like a liquid version of a double-base solid propellant (such as nitroglycerine and nitrocellulose [guncotton], with plasticizers and stabilization additives), because both of a double-base solid propellant's main constituents are--by themselves--good (if scary to use alone, and/or mechanically unsatisfactory) propellants. Also:

I suppose that the nitrous oxide/acetylene mixture that ALASA will use might also contain additives to make it more stable (so that it won't react anywhere except inside the high-pressure, high-temperature combustion chambers of ALASA's rocket engines). The mixture ratio of the acetylene and nitrous oxide might also affect the stability of the mixture. But I understand the concerns you've raised about its safety for hobbyist use, since it is really a mixture of a fuel and an oxidizer (although nitrous oxide might act as a relatively low-energy monopropellant by itself, under appropriate temperatures and pressures). But:

I'm certain that DARPA and Boeing know this as well, and will make sure that ALASA's acetylene/nitrous oxide (plus whatever else might be mixed in with it) monopropellant will perform as intended before it's ever loaded into an ALASA flight vehicle's tanks--with a manned F-15 fighter jet carrying the vehicles, they wouldn't use this monopropellant if it's "touchy" and "hair-trigger." (I once saw an amateur rocketry website [linked-to from a NASASpaceflight.com comment, if memory serves] that had a photograph of a LOX/kerosene mixture monopropellant--think "yellow slush"--which was claimed to be perfectly stable and safe. The poster had written, "I'm fearless, but that terrifies me!" ALASA's monopropellant is, presumably, not in that category.)

Jerry Irvine
11-08-2015, 09:02 AM
The propellant inventor's firm did tests at our site.

Tech Jerry

cites:

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=5&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=Firestar&s2=Mungas&OS=Firestar+AND+Mungas&RS=Firestar+AND+Mungas

http://satellite.tmcnet.com/topics/satellite/articles/2012/05/17/290846-green-propulsion-demo-passes-space-station-safety-review.htm

http://www.firestar-tech.com/NOFBX-MP.html

http://ispsllc.com

http://ispsllc.com/propulsion-technology/

blackshire
11-09-2015, 12:04 AM
The propellant inventor's firm did tests at our site.

Tech Jerry

cites:

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=5&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=Firestar&s2=Mungas&OS=Firestar+AND+Mungas&RS=Firestar+AND+Mungas

http://satellite.tmcnet.com/topics/satellite/articles/2012/05/17/290846-green-propulsion-demo-passes-space-station-safety-review.htm

http://www.firestar-tech.com/NOFBX-MP.html

http://ispsllc.com

http://ispsllc.com/propulsion-technology/Thank you for posting those links! Perhaps their "green" NOFBX monopropellant rocket system could be used for model and HPR liquid propellant hobbyist rockets (I asked them just now).