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Doug Sams 11-12-2010 10:04 AM

Park Plastics, Ye Old Water Rockets
 
In a thread on TRF, Roy posted about receiving Park Plastics water rockets for Christmas one year (circa 1967). http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?p=144444

His description mentions these as having a console and launch tower. That sounds very much like a setup I received a year or so later, also for Christmas. I wanna say mine came from/had been in the Sears Wishbook.

Very similar water rockets were common back then which used a combo hand-held pump/launch pad. But the more elaborate setup I had came with a remote control console (with pump) which was connected to the remote tower/pad with a hose (~8').

I was wondering if anyone else had this setup. I'm also looking for links. I've gotten lots of Google hits on "Park Plastics" but thus far all I've found are the handheld units with the toy-looking, teardrop-shaped rockets.

As I recall, my kit came with two rockets. Both were red, translucent plastic, one taller than the other. Can't recall if one was 2-stage or not. The console was white and greenish blue, and the hose to the tower was yellow. Compared to the handheld stuff I've seen, these rockets were more scale/realistic looking in appearance and lacked the toy rocket looks of the handhelds which tapered aft like bombs.

I want to say these rockets used the same couplings/nozzles as the hand-helds, and that they would work interchangeably with the hand-held launcher.

(I'm working from very fuzzy memories, so some of the details may be way off ;))

I'd love to hear others' recollections and comments on these 1960's/70's toy rockets.

Doug

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Ltvscout 11-12-2010 10:31 AM

I went through a bunch of the Park Plastics water rockets as a kid. They all used the handheld pump/launcher though. I had the standard teardrop shape rockets, and had a couple of all red 2-stage water rockets.

I loved anything that flew in the air as a kid. Model rockets, water rockets, kites, fireworks, dime-store balsa airplanes, homemade hot air balloons and Cox/Wen-Mac/Testors U-Control airplanes. I never had the patience to build a Guillows-type model plane out of balsa and tissue.

Doug Sams 11-12-2010 10:32 AM

I'm getting smarter in my old age. Thinking these were in the Sears Wishbook, a little Googling turned up a great find: http://www.wishbookweb.com/ (You can spend hours there, so be careful :) ).

In the heyday of the moon race, there were several water rocket kits sold thru Sears. This one below appears to be the most likely candidate for what I was describing. I don't recall the boat tails and spin fins, but everything else seems to strike a nerve.

Roy, is this what you had?



I want to say my rockets weren't quite the same as these, but it's been 40 years. Anybody else remember these?

Here are a couple of similar kits from that era:
http://www.doug79.com/stuff/1966_SearsChristmas_Page480.jpg
http://www.doug79.com/stuff/SearsWishbook-1971-P171.jpg

Doug

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Ltvscout 11-12-2010 10:35 AM

Interesting. I never saw that type of water rocket as a kid.

That page did bring back memories though. I LOVED Zeroids! I had Zobor and the Mighty Zogg.

Royatl 11-12-2010 10:39 AM

I think Park Plastics is no longer with us, but the molds and patents made it somewhere.

http://www.thefind.com/sports/info-deluxe-water-rocket

I've seen the blimp looking rockets being sold at Fry's Electronics, but I've never seen this
"{Aqua/Prop}{Zone/Shots}"set with one of the "Apollo" style rockets.


I've seen the console set on Ebay every once in a while, but they are exceedingly rare.

Leo 11-12-2010 11:08 AM

I had the Gemini version which I had fun with. This was before I knew about Estes rockets.



I still have the single and 2 stage Plastic Park rockets.


Ltvscout 11-12-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
I still have the single and 2 stage Plastic Park rockets.


That's the 2-stager I had as well.

Joe Wooten 11-12-2010 11:30 AM

I had one of those too as a 10 yr old kid.

My brothers and I destroyed it a couple of years later using them as BB gun skeet targets.

Leo 11-12-2010 11:38 AM

What's weird about the rockets is that to this day they still have that very strong plastic oder.

SCE to AUX 11-12-2010 01:08 PM

I loved these things as a kid, but have never seen the 2-stage version. How does the staging mechanism work? Does it look for zero pressure in the lower stage tank, or something else?

al_packer 11-12-2010 01:17 PM

I think I received my first Park water rocket some time around 1954. There were also a number of baking soda / vinegar rockets on the market back then. Note that many of them used spin fins.

al_packer 11-12-2010 01:30 PM

The water rocket folks even have their own NAR-equivalent!

http://www.wra2.org/

Some of these folks get pretty hard-core: http://www.water-rockets.com/article.pl?201,0

timorley 11-12-2010 01:37 PM

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I saw one of these with the tower launcher on eBay recently. I saved a picture from it.

I had the single stage version when I was a kid. I flew the heck out of it until one of the spin fins broke off. I picked one up awhile back still in the original box off eBay. I got a lucky surprise when I opened it that there were 3 rockets inside the box, 2 were not visible or mentioned in the auction.

Doug Sams 11-12-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by timorley
I saw one of these with the tower launcher on eBay recently. I saved a picture from it.

I had the single stage version when I was a kid. I flew the heck out of it until one of the spin fins broke off. I picked one up awhile back still in the original box off eBay. I got a lucky surprise when I opened it that there were 3 rockets inside the box, 2 were not visible or mentioned in the auction.
Great pic. Thanks, Tim.

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=20924

The one on the pad looks very much like what I pictured in my mind.
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How does the recovery system deploy?

Doug

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timorley 11-12-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Sams
How does the recovery system deploy?


I'm curious about that too. Maybe it is a loose fit and falls apart at apogee. :confused:

I wish I had bid on it, it only went for $19. Then I would know. :rolleyes:

Initiator001 11-12-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Sams
Great pic. Thanks, Tim.

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=20924

The one on the pad looks very much like what I pictured in my mind.
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How does the recovery system deploy?

Doug

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I had several Parks water rockets when I was a kid (red single-stage, red two-stage, Gemini capsule & parachute with booster).

The Gemini capsule paracute was stored under the capsule during boost. When the rocket reached apogee and turned over, the capsule fell away and the parachute open (It really did work).

That boosted rocket coming in ballistic made quite a'thud' when it hit. :eek:

Bob

ghrocketman 11-12-2010 03:12 PM

My younger brother had that supposed 2-stage Apollo setup. He may still have it; I dunno.
Never could get it to fly nearly as well as the claims.
The cheap hand-held teardrop shaped ones most often flew better.

Doug Sams 11-12-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
I still have the single and 2 stage Plastic Park rockets.

Thanks for posting that, Leo.

This looks like the rocket I was thinking of.

Do you mind if I copy this pic and maybe use it on my site? Thanks.

Doug

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Doug Sams 11-12-2010 05:38 PM



Leo's rocket is the same as the one on the pad at right? They look much the same, but I'm not 100% sure.

Doug

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Doug Sams 11-12-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by timorley
I saw one of these with the tower launcher on eBay recently. I saved a picture from it.


BTW, that's definitely the console I remember.

Doug

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hcmbanjo 11-12-2010 07:14 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Sams
I'm getting smarter in my old age. Thinking these were in the Sears Wishbook, a little Googling turned up a great find: http://www.wishbookweb.com/ (You can spend hours there, so be careful :) ).
Doug.


Doug,
Thanks for posting this link.
Not trying to hijack this thread,
I went to the 1969 Sears catalog and found the first real rocket I had, the Vashon Valkyrie 2.
I ordered it from this very catalog.
We couldn't get black powder engines in California then, at the time this seemed like the best alternative.
Even in 1969, $14.99 was a great price for the whole package.

Thanks for the flashback!

Royatl 11-13-2010 02:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by timorley
I saw one of these with the tower launcher on eBay recently. I saved a picture from it.

I had the single stage version when I was a kid. I flew the heck out of it until one of the spin fins broke off. I picked one up awhile back still in the original box off eBay. I got a lucky surprise when I opened it that there were 3 rockets inside the box, 2 were not visible or mentioned in the auction.



That's a slightly different version from the one I had. The tower and the console were the same, but my console was molded in either red or white, and it had the rocket that is pictured on the pad, as well as a two stage version. I did not have that parachute rocket, but I remember seeing that one for sale by itself (or with the blimp rocket) in Woolworths.

Royatl 11-13-2010 03:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghrocketman
My younger brother had that supposed 2-stage Apollo setup. He may still have it; I dunno.
Never could get it to fly nearly as well as the claims.
The cheap hand-held teardrop shaped ones most often flew better.


As I recall the two stage rocket rarely stayed together through "burnout" of the first stage. They separated not very long after launch, and just looked like two rockets flying in formation, and they didn't fly much higher than the single staged version (which, for me, only got about 70-80 feet... about 10-20 feet above the tallest pine in the yard).

Ltvscout 11-14-2010 09:58 AM

Ken Montanye asked that I post these links related to this thread:

http://www.vintagetoys.com/toy/fors...59?imgdisplay=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/1950s-PARK-PLAS...=item45f4d0ea9d

http://www.water-rockets.com/article.pl?143,0

dlazarus6660 11-14-2010 11:04 AM

Still get them?
 
I bought my son one of these about six years ago. (Newer version)
He loved it!
I still see them once in a while.
Cheap summertime fun.

Leo 11-14-2010 11:35 AM

Just don't use warm or hot water.

I learned that in the early 70's the hard way :rolleyes:

:)

Rocket Doctor 11-16-2010 09:43 AM

Leo

That is called a Sauna.....

RD

AcroRay 11-19-2010 08:39 PM

Parks Plastic GEMINI version, up for auction. Looks pretty cool!

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PARKS-G...=item5d2ba373e3


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