Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Ye Olde Rocket Forum (http://www.oldrocketforum.com/index.php)
-   FreeForAll (http://www.oldrocketforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10)
-   -   Ukraine: What To Do? (http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=13606)

Jerry Irvine 03-04-2014 10:32 AM

Here's an article on the legal ramifications.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/...ne-intervention

jharding58 03-04-2014 05:56 PM

Not much to be done in Crimea. The challenge will be if Putin feels empowered to go into Ukraine proper, or if the former head of state (and Russia sees Yanukovych as that) can make a case to the world court of opinion that he was ousted in a coup. Seriously though, the Black Sea Fleet still has a sizeable presence in Sevastapol and the only way in or out of the Black Sea is the Bosporus, and I do not see the west closing that strait down. Something like half of Europe gets their natural Gas from Russia so I would not see the EU doing too much other than bluster and rattling - maybe scissors but surely not sabres.

Jerry Irvine 03-04-2014 10:02 PM

Sink the fleet with folks with no flag on their uniform. Solved.

astronwolf 03-05-2014 07:22 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jharding58
Not much to be done in Crimea. The challenge will be if Putin feels empowered to go into Ukraine proper....

Just like Blitzkrieg tactics were adopted and refining by us, and worked so well in Kuwait and Iraq, what Russia is doing reminds me of the start of Nazi expansion in the 1930's.

That's not to say, what's happening in Ukraine is exactly the same. It just reminds me of 1930s Europe. Hitler invaded the Sudetenland "to protect German people" living in those areas which are now part of Czechoslovakia. Russia just annexed the Crimean peninsula, and Putin is telling everyone that they did that "to protect Russian people." My guess is that if Nazi expansion is the appropriate model here, Putin is going to let the West chase its tail for a while to allow time for things to settle down before his next move. That is, if the annexation of Crimea is the start of Russian expansion in the region. Maybe Obama is ironically correct - the Cold War is over.

The price of Taiwan is pretty low right now.

ghrocketman 03-05-2014 12:21 PM

Jerry Irvine makes a good point. No flag on ship/uniform=TARGET PRACTICE.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:15 AM.

Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.