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Old 02-27-2019, 09:03 AM
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Looks like the top section of the rocket is missing in the picture of all the rockets. I think I had heard that the 1/45 Saturn 1B was damaged in it's first flight? Just going on memory, don't have any first hand knowledge of it. If that is the case, maybe that is why the top section seems to be missing?
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:18 AM
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I wish they would kit that huge Saturn 1B as well as bringing back the 1/70 and 1/100 versions.
I'd like to see the K21 Gemini Titan and K41 Mercury Redstone back too.


Those would be great bring backs - however, after listening to The Rocketry Show interview with Langford and Stine from Estes, I get the feeling we’ll see scale models of current rockets sooner. They implied that bring backs aren’t as viable as models of newer prototypes - so maybe some Space X, Blue Origin, ESA, etc rockets we can build and fly? Personally I’d love an Estes Ariane 5! Or how about models of ISRO P/GSLVs? Maybe a version of Virgin Orbital’s drop launched satellite carrier?

The conversation turned to motors - specifically larger/more powerful BP motors - and one take away was “there’s more to B and C motors than what we currently make”. Will we see “full” Bs and Cs that top out at maximum power for those sizes? They didn’t say that directly but it certainly was implied. What probably won’t happen is 29mm BP Gs due to hazmat restrictions on black powder amounts and grain size limitations. But they were firm about the PSII line sticking around and expanding in the future. Not the near future but eventually. And a crack was left open for more powerful PSII motors...

They also said that the due out early this March 2019 catalog will be unlike any Estes catalogs produced in the last couple decades - much more information about how’s/whys of each rocket and rocketry in general. We’ll see - the leaked pages don’t look all that different but I’d love a return to the style catalogs of the late 60s - early 70s.
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:20 AM
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Looks like the top section of the rocket is missing in the picture of all the rockets. I think I had heard that the 1/45 Saturn 1B was damaged in it's first flight? Just going on memory, don't have any first hand knowledge of it. If that is the case, maybe that is why the top section seems to be missing?

There were a couple prototypes. One is still on display at Estes. As I said in the previous post, the demo flight used what I think was a Vulcan G80 and did not eject. At the time, Estes was looking into getting into mid power and composites. After the crash, they went to clustered D motors and eventually the North Coast collaboration. I may have the timing a little off, but it went something like that.
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Taking a closer look at the catalog preview, it seems Estes has new/revised skill level designations coming also. You can see little rocket icons underneath the kit descriptions. Orange rocket with a "B" (beginner?), blue rocket with a "I" (intermediate?), purple rocket with a "A" (advanced), black rocket with a "M" (master?).
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:02 PM
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You are correct. That is the same 1/45 Saturn 1B. The picture is from a hobby show about 30 years ago.


I took that picture at the 1991 Chicago RCHTA Show.

That model was destroyed during a flight demonstration at NARAM-34 (I was the Contest Director).
A back-up model which was less detailed was flown for a successful flight at the same event.
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:04 PM
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Estes has a teaser video of their 2019 catalog. Here is the link:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=311135742922667


The two-page kit spread layout reminds me of Estes catalogs from the mid-1970s.
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:25 AM
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I saw that flight at NARAM-34. Ouch.


Great NARAM logo/patch.




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I took that picture at the 1991 Chicago RCHTA Show.

That model was destroyed during a flight demonstration at NARAM-34 (I was the Contest Director).
A back-up model which was less detailed was flown for a successful flight at the same event.
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I REALLY like seeing PRANGS but not with any Saturns
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I REALLY like seeing PRANGS but not with any Saturns

I'm glad to know you have limits.

I admit I don't watch NASCAR, but I do like the crash highlights.
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