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Old 05-17-2018, 04:10 PM
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I am onto my next vintage build, trying to squeeze into by busy schedule. I am trying to get stuff set up so next year I am working a lot less making more time for fun stuff and my hobbies. I am building 2 defenders, One is sealed in great condition, the other is open with crushed body tube and some missing parts. I really like this rocket, simple as it may be still a cool looking rocket.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:36 PM
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Please tell me you are throwing the POS crushed body tube in the junk heap WHERE IT BELONGS and replacing it with a pristine new one worthy of the build.
There is ZERO VALUE in using vintage but JUNK components.
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:25 PM
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Please tell me you are throwing the POS crushed body tube in the junk heap WHERE IT BELONGS and replacing it with a pristine new one worthy of the build.
There is ZERO VALUE in using vintage but JUNK components.

I don't see any junk/crushed tubes in the pictures.
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:34 PM
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He's been sniffing the paint thinner again.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:06 PM
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Just finished watching this week's Archer and came on to find this!
I love this rocket. Never had it in the day but have cloned it twice as a BAR, losing the first one and crashing the second (after 9 combined flights). One of my faves. Really looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:38 PM
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The OP said the opened one has a crushed body tube.
Never sniffed paint thinner.
Have been using a lot of MMT, Aniline, and Toluene octane boosters in the Corvette though.
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The OP said the opened one has a crushed body tube.
Never sniffed paint thinner.
Have been using a lot of MMT, Aniline, and Toluene octane boosters in the Corvette though.
Those should be an adequate substitute!
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Looking forward to the build! Good looking bird.

Reading the face card -
"Huge Four Color Decal!"

The decal sheet doesn't look that big.
The Citation Patriot - now that was a HUGE decal.
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:46 PM
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This was is fast easy build, even though I am building two. The open kit had a crushed tube so I replaced it and it also had a few missing parts. I thought it came with a set of decals, but I have not been able to find them, oh well. Also I had just enough Brodak sealer for the complete kit and had to use FNF for the partial kit. I started the fins at the same time, and I was able to apply sanding sealer 3 times with sanding before I was finished with the FNF fins. No matter how careful I am at sanding, I always end up with a bare spot from sanding too much. I built both rockets as per the plans and this time hit the rocket with primer before applying Krylon white top coat. The Brodak fins came out nice and smooth but I will definitely need to add more filler and sanding to my FNF fins. Now don't get me wrong I am not bashing FNF, I think it has its merits. FNF is easy to buy, cheap and does not have a noxious odor. Brodak is costly, smells and I have to odor it online. Chris has mastered FNF by applying once, sanding then priming all the parts separately before assembling his rockets. His rockets come out looking like a catalog picture so it goes to show FNF does work well. My problem is I like the look of a finished vintage rocket before paint or primer when it is all assembled, I cannot get that if I prime before assembly I am finishing up the complete defender now and will put the other one on hold because I am being lazy and I do not want to mess with more filling and sanding. You can see in the pictures, the unprimed fins on the right are Brodak, glossy and smooth. The bare fins on the left are FNF and you can see where I sanded too much. The primed fins on the left are Brodak, no touch up needed. You can see the fins on the right are FNF and for some reason the glue fillets look pretty rough on the fins.
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Old 05-18-2018, 04:58 PM
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Order the Brodak by the QUART.
A quart will last a LONNNGGGG time.

FnF just plain sucks.
The amount of dust created sanding that garbage could plug a Kenworth air cleaner.
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