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Old 09-18-2011, 01:36 PM
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As hinted at at the NARAM Manufacturer's Forum (videos are all now online - thanks!), look for them around Fall 2012.


You mean Fall 2012 for the US market?

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You mean Fall 2012 for the US market?

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I do not mean anything. I watched the video and I heard what I heard. For the exact wording spoken on the video, you must view the video yourself. i do not wish to attempt to construct a transcript of someone else's comments and risk an error.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:46 AM
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Terry- AMEN and well said.
Add perpetually condescending as well.
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C'mon guys - let's all keep the snark to a minimum and focus on the topic at hand - new motors coming - woohoo!!! This is the best news since Hobbyco took over Estes and started bringing out neat new kits - I can't wait!!!

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Interesting discussion, partly because of the issues I've had with Quest motors (issues I didn't even know I had until after I had stopped using them!). When I first BAR'ed a couple of years ago the local hobby shop carries Quest motors cheaper. Hey, I figured I knew how to not spend money when kicking off a new hobby! Anyhoo, our first few outings were rough (using the Quest motors), and then I eventually ordered Estes motors to use.

I will spend the money on Estes motors anytime.

Although a certain amount of inexperience could have contributed to our less-than-stellar first few outings, Cuzzin' Mike and I came to the conclusion that the spectacular outing we had last time was due to the Estes motors. They burn clean, they burn true, and they don't have these little discs of whatever it is that falls out of them afterwards - like the things didn't burn completely.

Ya get what ya pay fer.

So, this thread pops up about new German motors and the Quest connection, and I hope that this line of motors will be better than those others ... Price won't be an issue, as long as they can perform like those Estes motors! I'm going to be hard-to-please now...
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Interesting discussion, partly because of the issues I've had with Quest motors (issues I didn't even know I had until after I had stopped using them!). When I first BAR'ed a couple of years ago the local hobby shop carries Quest motors cheaper. Hey, I figured I knew how to not spend money when kicking off a new hobby! Anyhoo, our first few outings were rough (using the Quest motors), and then I eventually ordered Estes motors to use.

I will spend the money on Estes motors anytime.

Although a certain amount of inexperience could have contributed to our less-than-stellar first few outings, Cuzzin' Mike and I came to the conclusion that the spectacular outing we had last time was due to the Estes motors. They burn clean, they burn true, and they don't have these little discs of whatever it is that falls out of them afterwards - like the things didn't burn completely.

Ya get what ya pay fer.

So, this thread pops up about new German motors and the Quest connection, and I hope that this line of motors will be better than those others ... Price won't be an issue, as long as they can perform like those Estes motors! I'm going to be hard-to-please now...
Which Quest motors did you use? There is a difference between their German-made and Chinese-made C6 motors (the latter are more like C4 motors in terms of average thrust), but their other motors--whether from Germany or China--perform on the mark. Also, their A6-4 gives more "whoosh for your 'ka-ching!'" than the A8-3 in most rockets. The liftoff is a bit slower (which is more enjoyable because one can actually *see* the rocket moving instead of glimpsing a blur at first motion), and the extra second of delay time makes a noticeable difference in the peak altitude. In addition, lightweight rockets that eject a bit before apogee on an A8-3 are pretty much spot-on with ejecting right at apogee on an A6-4.
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Which Quest motors did you use? There is a difference between their German-made and Chinese-made C6 motors (the latter are more like C4 motors in terms of average thrust), but their other motors--whether from Germany or China--perform on the mark. Also, their A6-4 gives more "whoosh for your 'ka-ching!'" than the A8-3 in most rockets. The liftoff is a bit slower (which is more enjoyable because one can actually *see* the rocket moving instead of glimpsing a blur at first motion), and the extra second of delay time makes a noticeable difference in the peak altitude. In addition, lightweight rockets that eject a bit before apogee on an A8-3 are pretty much spot-on with ejecting right at apogee on an A6-4.


And three of those rock in a Ranger clone!
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And three of those rock in a Ranger clone!
I'll bet they do! The smokier Chinese A6-4s must make for particularly spectacular ascents.
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I do not mean anything. I watched the video and I heard what I heard. For the exact wording spoken on the video, you must view the video yourself. i do not wish to attempt to construct a transcript of someone else's comments and risk an error.


Thanks Fred - do you have a link to the video?

When Robert Klima first announced the new motors in February, the timeline was summer 2011 (for the European market) - see here:

http://www.europerocketry.com/index...5e37fbfd5f6da9b

I guess this was too optimistic - now, it seems they won´t be available until next year?

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Thanks Fred - do you have a link to the video?

When Robert Klima first announced the new motors in February, the timeline was summer 2011 (for the European market) - see here:

http://www.europerocketry.com/index...tails&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=205&cHash=ac2ed8acd5b4511045e37fbfd5f6da9b

I guess this was too optimistic - now, it seems they won´t be available until next year?

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NARAMlive website provides video of the NARAM manufacturer's forum. This year he has the videos on YouTube. Here is the basic link and from there you'll have to look around for the 2 parts of the Quest presentation.
http://www.youtube.com/user/naramlive53http://www.youtube.com/user/naramlive53
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