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Old 08-01-2013, 09:52 AM
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Here is a downloadable paper model of Orbital Sciences Corporation's Pegasus satellite launch vehicle: http://www.orbital.com/images/Graph...per_Pegasus.pdf It is a profile glider, capable of being either hand-launched or catapult-launched (using a rubber band tied to a stick). It could also be flown as a parasite boost-glider, or (using a body tube/nose cone fuselage) as a rear-motor boost-glider fitted with a rear-ejection, front-ballasted motor pod tube (equipped with rear fins for stability) for stable powered ascents.
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There is a 1/48 Pegasus paper model that was on the Hudson Valley site. I have the pdf if you would like a copy.
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There is a 1/48 Pegasus paper model that was on the Hudson Valley site. I have the pdf if you would like a copy.
Thank you. If it isn't too big, though (in terms of file size--I don't know what the maximum is for YORF message attachments, but I've attached fairly large PDFs to my postings here with no problems), you could post it here so that everyone could have access to it.
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The model is still on the Lower Hudson Valley web site

here
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The model is still on the Lower Hudson Valley web site

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Indeed--thank you! And it's not the only one on that page that has possibilities for model rocket flight conversion (see: http://jleslie48.com/gallery_models_postapollo.html ).
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Avro Arrow was interesting plane - there has to be someone somewhere who hasdon e a model rocket version.
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Avro Arrow was interesting plane - there has to be someone somewhere who hasdon e a model rocket version.
I would be quite surprised if a member of the CAR (Canadian Association of Rocketry, see: http://www.canadianrocketry.org/ ) hasn't built and flown a boost-glider scale model of the Avro Arrow. There might even be a history-with-model-plans article on such a project in an issue--perhaps going back a few years--of "Earthrise," the CAR's journal. Also:

There is an active interest in the Avro Arrow among some Canadian model rocketeers, particularly since several rocket-boosted (using Nike boosters), sub-scale Avro Arrow aerodynamic test models were flown (see: http://www.avroarrow.org/ffm/index.html ) . I recall reading an article several years ago about a private project to find and recover these models, which were fired from a temporary range on the shore of Lake Ontario (a few were also launched at Wallops Island, Virginia, where a lot of this type of "free flight wind tunnel" test work with rocket-boosted scale aircraft and missile models was done from 1945 to ~1960). Doing a quick "Google" check, it appears that there are (or were) several groups engaged in recovering the Avro Arrow models from the bottom of Lake Ontario, as you can see here: (http://www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or....ecovery+project ). Googling "Avro Arrow" brings up headings such as "Avro Arrow plans," "Avro Arrow model kit," and "Avro Arrow R/C," so the scale data to build flying scale models of it appears to be available.

I hope this information will be helpful.
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Hi all, just to give some more info about the Arrow models, they were 1/8th scale, and used on Nike-Ajax rockets. I have added a pic.

For what it is worth, I used to sit on the board of directors for one of the groups searching for the models. I don't think we will see any of these models any time soon. There are plenty of problems with this project, which I want to share for your amusement, as some of it becomes silly....

There are physical issues:
-exact location in Lake Ontario. They were launched from the Point Petre firing range in Ontario, but what exact direction, etc.
-they will be covered in Zebra muscles
-they were made from magnesium alloy and wood, both do not hold up well long term in water. There may not be much left of them, assuming they even survived water impact.
-they might also be covered/buried in silt.

Here is the funny parts.....(political) red tape.
-ownership, ie who actually owns them now. I won't go into details as my info is outdated.
-physical location, they are in Lake Ontario, a federal body of water, meaning they are regulated under federal rules, but, as the Province of Ontario has pointed out, technically they are in the mud/silt, which is provincial, which means it would then be regulated under Provincial rules.
-Conservation Minister of Canada, who's attitude is pretty much if it is down there, it will stay down there. We had asked permission to pull a Nike booster out of the area to test procedures on how to remove Zebra muscles. He said no. We told him there really was no significant historical value of part of a rocket booster. He still said no. Etc Etc.... Apparently the only thing to ever "really" make it out of the water was a ships bell, I believe from the Edmund Fitzgerald, and this was only released due to government pressure.

We also have to keep in mind that all of the searching costs money.

Back to the model rockets, I have thought for many years of building one of these. Sooo many ideas/projects, so little time. Closest I have done was putting a small Avro Arrow keychain in a clear payload bay. It kept me happy for a while!
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:42 PM
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Thank you for posting the picture. There are two of the models offshore from Wallops, but in the sea water, it is even less likely that there is anything to recover--assuming they could be told from the thousands of other bits of rockets down there. I can't help but chuckle at that official, as he is, by blocking the model recovery efforts, unwittingly adding to the conspiracy theories surrounding the Avro Arrow's sudden demise.
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