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Old 10-16-2018, 06:22 PM
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That said, I'd rather sit in a dead Chevy rather than ride in any Trashota POS.



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Old 10-16-2018, 07:19 PM
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Somebody mention bikes? Give me a V-4 any day. Torque and revs, not either/or.

...and what an intoxicating sound.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:46 PM
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Should have been the Saturn 11 but this was all before spinal tap



I present to you what could have been Saturn 11 ... if it would not have remained hidden in the labs of the evil Red Max team, and brought to the USA ...
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:39 PM
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Nice re-hashed photos of Der Saturn Max, Lee !
I like it.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:11 PM
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I'm sure Luke Strawwalker will chime-in on this, but the short version is that Saturns II, III and IV were designs that didn't make the cut as the lunar mission evolved. I'm pretty sure the Saturn V was the Saturn IV with an extra engine so the "number of engines" reason is not that far off.


Yep that's the reason, believe it or not...

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Old 10-16-2018, 10:14 PM
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Spot on. The Silverstein Committee proposed eight designs for the Saturn launch vehicles (see pic below). C-1 became the Saturn 1. A refinement of the C-1 became the Saturn 1B. C-5 became the Saturn V. If C-2, C-3, and C-4 had been built they might have been the Saturn II, III, and IV.


More info in this Wikipedia article, scroll down to Silverstein Committee:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(rocket_family))


Don't forget the C-8 "Nova" rocket... 8 F-1's on the first stage!

They should have built the S-ID stage, though... drop the outer four F-1's 2 minutes into flight, gimbal the center F-1 and burn it to orbit... Like a souped up version of Atlas... Same payload to orbit as a Space Shuttle for probably 1/100th the cost.

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Old 10-17-2018, 12:12 AM
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Nice re-hashed of Deer Saturn Max, Lee !
I like it.


Thanks. One of the most fun projects Iíve worked on.
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I present to you what could have been Saturn 11 ... if it would not have remained hidden in the labs of the evil Red Max team, and brought to the USA ...




I love it!

Now, light all 5!


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Old 10-17-2018, 11:13 AM
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I love it!

Now, light all 5!


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I have 2 Saturn V's still-in-box, one each from the two Estes releases over the past 20 years (and am thinking I need to get another, more recent kit). One of these days I'm gonna build one, and, no doubt, I plan to light 5 in the first stage

As I recall, you did 5-to-5-to-1, right? I can't say I'll be that bold, but if I can light 9 at once in a Super Big Bertha, I feel pretty good I can get 5 lit in a Saturn V

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Old 10-17-2018, 02:33 PM
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As I recall, you did 5-to-5-to-1, right? I can't say I'll be that bold, but if I can light 9 at once in a Super Big Bertha, I feel pretty good I can get 5 lit in a Saturn V

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Hey Doug!

I'd love to see you put up a 5 engine Saturn V! Maybe by next July?

That's correct. It took 3 flights to get it right but on the 3rd try we got all 11 engines in 3 stages and there were NO electronics, all CHAD staged.

As the attached photos show I decided not to waste the time on the official paint job and I used permanent fins because I originally intended to test fly it as a complete Saturn V, then without the 1st stage, just the 2nd and 3rd, and finally just the third to prove it could be done. But I started on Red Squadron and never got back around to it.

I got a few negative comments about the fins not being clear plastic but I HATE those things; Aesthetically, I don't see a difference.

The first 3 photos are of Bad Girl fully assembled and prepped. The photo of the first 3 are from my progression from single D to 5 engine cluster and finally full stack.

The last photo is of Rocket Babe at a club night launch. The photos are from a 35mm Yashica SLR and were taken about 2005-2006 before we got a digital camera. To date, Rocket Babe has been flown 26 times. I'll probably fly her for the last time next July for the 50th.


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