Nobody is more anti OBL than I. However as I said in the original message preceeding the posted example, it's all about understanding the "terms of engagement" the President has set.

It is very clear that had they intended to take OBL by any means other than assassination, they readily could have with the facts we now know.

I am not saying he deserved a trial or anything other than a field termination, but he was not even debriefed. Either he had something to say that didn't fit the script, or the surviellance is so great there is nothing we needed to hear form him. We already know we knew where he was for a while and didn't act.

The whole thing was handled more like a political act than a military one. At least that's how I see it and I am not taking any particular party side in saying that.

Jerry

The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it ! Joseph Goebbels.

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Ahhhh! So that explains Obama!! Knew there had to be *some* reason.


Earl

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Actually, Gerald Molen IS right wing, and Morman, despite his connection to Spielberg.

Not everyone in Hollywood is left wing. Maybe the prevailing view, but many don't even care about politics.

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And that is why we are losing/lost our nation ... many people care more about what is between their legs, instead of what is between their ears ... we are a dumbed down ready to be a RULED people ... well at least some of us aren't.

I feel sorry for the citizens of America ... most can't think or do for themselves ... then slavery/subjugation takes place.

Good luck.

Jonathan

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...ackers-agitprop

Molen, who spent decades supervising productions not just for Spielberg but for other prominent Democratic donors like Robert Redford and Sydney Pollack, makes a peculiar ideologue. Though he’s always been a Republican—he was particularly enthusiastic about Ronald Reagan in 1980 after Jimmy Carter’s handling of the Iranian hostage crisis—“I wasn’t really involved in politics,” he told me in a telephone interview from his home in Bigfork, Mt. His last big project was Minority Report, with Spielberg and Tom Cruise, in 2002; he’s never been involved in an explicitly partisan film before. “I have no design on making political movies,” Molen told me. “It’s not what I’m about.” But, he went on, “I’m working on this because it’s a story I think needs to be told.”

Molen is a Rhino (Moderate Conservative) who works direct with Liberal Dem politicians and leftist in Hollywood. Actually, I believe that Molen sells his personal principals for the all mighty dollar ... I would NEVER work along side people mentioned in the article ... sorry but I am just that way.

You lay with dogs, you get flees.

Put it this way, Tom Selleck he is not!

P.s.s. I am an Independent Conservative [ABSOLUTELY NO PARTY AFFILIATION]. I would NEVER aide a left-winger, nor a right-winger ... I believe both groups are destroying this nation! The only way to make the politician beholden to the citizen, is to do away with parties all together! George Washington warned this nation of the two party system in his final speech to the Congress ... the politicians becomes beholden to the party and NOT to the citizens who elected them to office!

With that said, go Tea Party, go Coffee Party! Any groups that disrupt the [NATURAL ORDER] of Washington D.C. I support enthusiastically!

I am posting an update to the box office results of this movie because suddenly people really are seeing it.

This is from imdb.com

Box office / business for
2016: Obama's America (2012)

Budget
$2,500,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend
$31,610 (USA) (15 July 2012) (1 Screen)

Gross
$32,022,601 (USA) (23 September 2012)
$30,037,361 (USA) (16 September 2012)
$26,087,554 (USA) (9 September 2012)
$20,685,234 (USA) (2 September 2012)
$9,075,393 (USA) (26 August 2012)
$2,028,035 (USA) (19 August 2012)
$141,637 (USA) (5 August 2012)
$135,228 (USA) (29 July 2012)
$80,134 (USA) (22 July 2012)
$31,610 (USA) (15 July 2012)

Weekend Gross
$937,524 (USA) (23 September 2012) (1,216 Screens)
$1,988,294 (USA) (16 September 2012) (1,876 Screens)
$3,281,259 (USA) (9 September 2012) (2,017 Screens)
$5,103,382 (USA) (2 September 2012) (1,747 Screens)
$6,237,517 (USA) (26 August 2012) (1,091 Screens)
$1,244,698 (USA) (19 August 2012) (169 Screens)
$34,133 (USA) (5 August 2012) (10 Screens)
$39,459 (USA) (29 July 2012) (6 Screens)
$33,182 (USA) (22 July 2012) (4 Screens)
$31,610 (USA) (15 July 2012) (1 Screen)

So that makes it the #1 documentary of all time "soon", and a well above average gross movie.

As for my observation of the rhetoric being used in stump speeches and the DNC itself I see a whole bunch of "straw man arguments" being used. The rhetoric is very finely crafted to parse brief time frames for reporting of statistics, selected statistics that support the claims, no matter how thin, weak, or misleading. This is so very clearly a propaganda campaign to anybody who has ever taken classes on debate and rhetorical construction. This President is highly educated, trained, and practiced in these methods having been the Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Normally these practices are avoided, criticized and eschewed.

Under the use of an expert, these practices, used intentionally (unethically), to influence his own political followers is very interesting to watch.

To compound the problem, and it is a problem, there is nearly zero fact checking by anyone of any credibility or popularity, and there is also nearly zero lean back or challenge by "professional journalists" charged with broadcasting news that is "fit to print".

This lack of challenges by the journalist community is clearly the most harmful thing to our country imaginable, as they are considered the "fourth estate", after the judicial, legislative, and executive branches of the country.

The executive branch is "running the table".

This film, "2016: Obama's America", which is a rare insight into what journalism could be if any effort at all were applied, it is also a "dimming flicker in time and space" in the scheme of things.

It is already being used as a beating stick by RNC surrogates, and mocked, marginalized and actively disregarded by surrogates of the DNC. Thus it is (falsely) viewed as a "partisan effort" in the general media, which is largely content controlled by self described liberals, progressives, and Obama supporters.

Just Jerry

Democrat Senate, led by D Senate Leader Reid and D VP and Senate President Biden, under direct orders of D President Obama. http://www.gop.gov/indepth/jobs/tracker

There isn't even an Obama fact check page on wikipedia!

Attached is a chart of the labor force participation rate, which brings the Obama accomplishment on employment right back to the Carter years. The sharp inflection down is coincident with the sharp shifting of debt acquired assets to the public sector from the private sector, using stimulus, and other measures.

Something like 50% of "stimulus" which was supposed to be "one time" in FY 2009, is block grants to states for public sector employee funding. It was continued into FY 2010-2013 (5 years total) so about $2000B on that line item alone.

http://energytomorrow.org/blog/ener...tion/#/type/all

"Instead, Americans are asked to keep waiting for robust job creation and economic recovery, underscored by an August jobs report that showed a middling 96,000 new jobs were created last month. Unemployment fell to 8.1 percent, but experts said that was because more than 360,000 people left the workforce. Indeed, if the workforce was as large now as it was in January 2009 (see The Washington Post’s chart below), unemployment today would be 11.2 percent."

The impact of Obama I's policies start in mid 2009 to early 2010 and will continue to late 2013.

Jerry

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I saw Sean Hannity on Fox, interview the producer.

Folks, this isn't a 'get the lefty hatchet job' documentary. This is what the media should have done to Obama back in 2007 - 2008 and they didn't. The people in this film have NEVER been interviewed. OH, and just so if you 'lefties' think its just a bunch of angry racist white men and sell-outs like me who are saying bad things about your man, the people interviewed in the film are Obama's own relatives!!!

OBAMA'S OWN RELATIVES who have NEVER been asked questions about Obama from ANY Western media/film crew!

Obama's vision for America is a hybrid of France-Kenya-and a dash of China. He is a Socialist/Marxiist-light visionary; a radical.

For some of you, this is a shared vision ... for myself and others who fled for their lives (some losing their lives in the process of leaving such Utopia's) this is a system I will not live in.

I am afraid the Jin can't be placed back into the bottle and that there are far far far too many Americans who also share Obama's vision for America.

I watched as the Democrats BOOed God .... at that point, I realized the Democrat Party is no more than a collection of malcontents, atheists, and anarchists. A good chunk of Americans also fall into these categories.

Ya'll know my stance, and positions on life and the Universe, so no need pissing into the wind post after post after post...

Jonathan

That never stopped you before . . . .

You guys do know it has been proven several times that this movie is full of holes and conveniently edited interviews?!?
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