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Old 09-15-2012, 09:35 PM
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This note isn't so much a plans issue but rather something akin to an addendum.

While working on our Rigel-3 I found some issues with the die-cut fin parts provided in the original kit. The article attached is something I prepared for our Club Newsletter, but I thought the info might be of use to the community at large.

Now that Estes has recreated the Rigel-3/Odyssey nose cone (available in the new Dark Star kit), perhaps this info may be of use to those of you that had contemplated building a Rigel-3 at some point. There's a rumor that Carl might produce fins for a clone one day...
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:52 AM
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I wouldn't mind trying to clone this one myself!
Great job an that build.
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Sigh - another to add to the list...

Very nicely done!
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Sigh - another to add to the list...

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Thanks Bill!

The Rigel-3 is a model that's been on my list for a long time, and I finally got around to it this past year. I thought that the decals would be the high risk component in the model because of their age, but as it turned out it was the aforementioned fin parts and the wood dowels that are used for the struts. The dowels in my kit were quite warped after 30 years of kit stagnation. I replaced those with carbon fiber tubes, which made for a strong and straight substitution.

The kit decals worked very well, but I had to be a bit patient with them; it took a good minute's soak for the adhesive to soften enough to slide each one off its paper backing. But other than the soaking time, they worked great - no tears, no cracks, no problems.

One word of caution though about those corrected fin parts. Carefully built they tighten up the joint between the sustainer and booster fins quite well. But one has to keep in mind that there will be some paint build up, and so this has to be allowed for in the construction or things get too tight. One would prefer to have the booster actually separate when that upper stage engine ignites!

I must mention that Ray King also built and entered a beautifully rendered Rigel-3 for C Division, and his turned out very well. I was fortunate that he was competing in a different Division!

I've always thought the Rigel-3 to be one of Estes' more elegant futuristic designs, made more so with that unique nose. Now that Estes has the nose retooled and re-released as part of the new Dark Star kit, perhaps more folks now will have the chance to clone this great Old Rocket.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:21 PM
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This note isn't so much a plans issue but rather something akin to an addendum.

While working on our Rigel-3 I found some issues with the die-cut fin parts provided in the original kit. The article attached is something I prepared for our Club Newsletter, but I thought the info might be of use to the community at large.

Now that Estes has recreated the Rigel-3/Odyssey nose cone (available in the new Dark Star kit), perhaps this info may be of use to those of you that had contemplated building a Rigel-3 at some point. There's a rumor that Carl might produce fins for a clone one day...


That's awesome! Until this moment I had no idea that it used decals like the Starship Vega. Are they the same or just close?
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That's awesome! Until this moment I had no idea that it used decals like the Starship Vega. Are they the same or just close?


Hi Bill;

Similar, in that there's that recurring '3" theme (I've always wondered what the deal was with '3' at Estes, but I suppose I'll never know), and there's the similarity in the striping and logo layout, but that's about where it ends. If you check closely you'll note that the logo inserts the name of the particular rocket (Vega vs Rigel-3), the shape of the fin decals is adjusted to suit the outline of the respective fins, and the Vega mainly uses black as the accent color, whereas the Rigel-3 uses blue.

Nevertheless, there's definitely a common thread, no doubt intended as part of the exotic interplanetary starship theme. Would make for a nice display to have the two sitting side by side, no?
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Hi Bill;

Similar, in that there's that recurring '3" theme (I've always wondered what the deal was with '3' at Estes, but I suppose I'll never know), and there's the similarity in the striping and logo layout, but that's about where it ends. If you check closely you'll note that the logo inserts the name of the particular rocket (Vega vs Rigel-3), the shape of the fin decals is adjusted to suit the outline of the respective fins, and the Vega mainly uses black as the accent color, whereas the Rigel-3 uses blue.

Nevertheless, there's definitely a common thread, no doubt intended as part of the exotic interplanetary starship theme. Would make for a nice display to have the two sitting side by side, no?


Now that you mention it, I do remember that logo on my Super Vega having the name of the rocket in it. I printed off a set of waterslide decals for the SV because I didn't trust the 20+ year old stickers. I need to get serious about getting them sealed and applied before our (possible) launch in two weeks. It's been since early September of 2001 since the maiden flight, so I guess the paint has cured.
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I have flight pictures of the one which flew late in the day. Was that yours or the other one?


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I have flight pictures of the one which flew late in the day. Was that yours or the other one?


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Mine flew in the afternoon, and after Ray's, so quite possibly it was mine.
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This note isn't so much a plans issue but rather something akin to an addendum.

While working on our Rigel-3 I found some issues with the die-cut fin parts provided in the original kit. The article attached is something I prepared for our Club Newsletter, but I thought the info might be of use to the community at large.

Now that Estes has recreated the Rigel-3/Odyssey nose cone (available in the new Dark Star kit), perhaps this info may be of use to those of you that had contemplated building a Rigel-3 at some point. There's a rumor that Carl might produce fins for a clone one day...

I still have my Rigel 3, and my old Odyssey which uses same NC as u kno-did u kno tho, that the Decals on the 2 are different-Rigel is Blue, Odyssey is Black, well, is on mine. BTW, NICE kits in background pic ! -Farside X, etc.
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