Thanks, Roy.

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I assumed the black rings were made from some sort of carbon fiber. I attributed the black residue to the actual material being used and not from laser soot...interesting. They are very sturdy and work well, but very messy as others have stated. I think BMS is the root source for them. Fliskit and Zooch use them in their kits. Doesn't keep me from buying their kits, but I like the white rings that Estes supply much better. The Semroc rings have worked out just fine, but maybe night quite as stiff as the competition, but certainly better than the Quest junk.

I think "Letramax" was the term James was looking for. Laser cut or not, this stuff can be messy. I frequently need to sand out the inside or sand down the outside to make a ring fit, and it can be messy. Plus, it tends to delaminate during this process, but I just glue it back together and grin and bear it. It's still a decent material strength wise and cost wise. And compared to wound rings, you'll find those things come apart pretty easy too when you're sanding them to size.

I'm not wild about Letramax, but I just kinda looked at the messiness as the "price of admission" so to speak. Heck, CA and epoxy can be messy. Sanding and spraypainting are, too. In fact, just about everything in my garage has a dull, gray tint from overspray

Doug

Thanks for the correction, Doug.

But it is a cool garage!

Really not sure where to post this. Guess this is a good a place as any. To cut down on time we have decided to exclude headers (card at the top of each kit) to our on-line customers. We will have them on kits going to stores, but since most of our customers are on-line this will save time and money. Before I do too many kits without headers, I would like some feedback on your thoughts about this. Thanks for your time.

Sheryl

Sheryl,

Although the headers have nothing to do with the kit itself, it does make for a nice-looking package. When I open up one of these kits, I usually start by cutting off the header, so one might say it's the first thing to go. Yet, for the length of time that I might have that kit sitting unopened on the shelf, that header card in its own little way makes the kit stand out from the rest that much more. I guess it does take up a lot of time to include them in every kit, and that time can add up over the span of a few packing sessions. But it's still a nice touch that the other kits don't have.

I know that doesn't help...

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Craig,

Thanks for the quick reply. Got us thinking, the Header is also the only place where it says Made in the USA. Will have to do more thinking about this.

Sheryl

I have no problem with this. All I would ask for is a header and production # for the new release reserve kits for us collectors.

Saving time & money is a good thing!

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Couldn't that be placed on the face card somewhere?

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Totally agree with Scott here. BTW - have you thought of a new reserve kit scheme yet? I know Carl had mentioned before that it needed to be reworked.

PS - I'd be adding "Proudly Made in the USA" at the bottom of every plan page.

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