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Old 07-21-2016, 06:26 AM
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I like it all...from 1/2A through about J-power.
Once you get over a J, it just gets too darned expensive.
I fly mostly B through F power, but have went much higher.
Technically by the letter of the law, one can fly H power without a cert providing it does not exceed the FAA propellant mass limit, which many H motors are under.
The 80-newton average thrust max set by the CPSC is a total crock as is the ENTIRE premise of a CPSC.


I thought the motor vendors will not sell H and above without a certification?
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:39 PM
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I thought the motor vendors will not sell H and above without a certification?


There are always garage sales and the black market.
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:57 PM
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I know several vendors that sell H & I motors via internet w/o cert as long as you 'say' it is for a 'cert' flight, and some will also do that for 'J' motors as well.
This whole 'cert'' crap is a huge load of horse manure anyway.

CERTS ? CERTS ? WEE DUN'T NEED NO STEEEENKING CERTS !
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:04 PM
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I know several vendors that sell H & I motors via internet w/o cert as long as you 'say' it is for a 'cert' flight, and some will also do that for 'J' motors as well.
This whole 'cert'' crap is a huge load of horse manure anyway.

CERTS ? CERTS ? WEE DUN'T NEED NO STEEEENKING CERTS !



I love my CERTS with Retsyn! We need CERTS! We need CERTS!
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:22 PM
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Got in two more good flights on the Hornet again this morning.
This is the only bird I have that's flight ready at the moment. Have several other builds that are in various stages of completion.

Unfortunately this one came back from its second flight with a rather nasty gash on one of the fins. Payload section snap-back at ejection.

Back to the work bench...sigh...
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:31 PM
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Got in two more good flights on the Hornet again this morning.
This is the only bird I have that's flight ready at the moment. Have several other builds that are in various stages of completion.

Unfortunately this one came back from its second flight with a rather nasty gash on one of the fins. Payload section snap-back at ejection.

Back to the work bench...sigh...


Time for longer elastic shock cords, or dare to tie two Estes cords together.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:41 AM
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I know several vendors that sell H & I motors via internet w/o cert as long as you 'say' it is for a 'cert' flight, and some will also do that for 'J' motors as well.
This whole 'cert'' crap is a huge load of horse manure anyway.

CERTS ? CERTS ? WEE DUN'T NEED NO STEEEENKING CERTS !


I actually agree with GH on something... LOL

It's hard to accept the logic demanding the necessity of "certifications" when one of the main hobby rocket motor manufacturers is selling them out the back door as redneck "hold my beer and watch this" stunt gee-gaws (jet-hitch) with no compunction whatsoever.

Let's call it what it is... It's a legislative stranglehold on honest and responsible hobbyists by a self-appointed clique, nothing more.

I have seen and read about plenty of abject stupidity on high power ranges that the so-called safety through certification programs have done NOTHING to stop or correct.

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Old 07-28-2016, 08:43 AM
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Time for longer elastic shock cords, or dare to tie two Estes cords together.


+1...

First thing I learned as a BAR-- ALWAYS throw away that undersize piece of scrap rubber band material that Estes puts in their kits and replace it with 1/4 inch elastic about 3X the length of the rubber band crap Estes put in the kit.

No failures yet!

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