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Old 07-07-2008, 08:17 AM
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If nothing else, just use the Shuttle as a display piece.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:45 AM
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This is the "Flying Foam Shuttle Orbiter of Death".

These sets are a menace and should be destroyed for the good of the Hobby.

I am not joking and I am 100% serious.


LOL. Mine consistently flies like a champ. The last time we flew it at a launch we did it 3 times because everybody wanted to see it circle around us again. Now once when I was still trying to get it trimmed right, it did start a small fire.

You just have to know how to treat it. Since we started completely filling the ejecting motor mount tube with dog barf we've had no fire issues. And you absolutely have to wait until there is no wind.

My only complaint is the launch height, it's proven difficult to get a gliding photograph because the ejecting mount kicks it hard forcing everybody to reacquire the glider and by that time you've got only a couple of seconds before it lands due to the aerodynamics.

If Hobbylinc can ever get their act together and get my backorder to me, I plan to try it with a D13 the next time I can get a still wind.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:46 AM
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If nothing else, just use the Shuttle as a display piece.


There's no external tank or SRBs. Plus it only comes in a launch kit.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:49 AM
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so Mikus,

As an EST 1467 fan like me - any advice as to where I get a new one?
Thanks,
Richard
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:19 AM
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Just to clarify: I have RSO'd at large club launches (2 or 3 per month for the last 10 years and at least once a month for the 20 years before that.). I have seen dozens and dozens of these foam orbiter models flown. After the 4th fire, we banned them. So, it does not start a fire on every launch, but how many fires are OK with most of you out there?

Once in a while they fly OK. I have examined them before and after flight and there is no difference between the good and bad ones. Motor mounts were installed properly and pushed in all the way. Steel weights were intact. Motor clip was not bent into path of motor exhaust. Launch rod length did not matter (we used 4 foot steel rods for club and individuals used the shorter rod provided by Estes). As I mentioned earlier, we even tried different motors.

A Model Rocket should go straight up every time - or almost straight up. This one would leave the rod, turn in a random direction and fly horizontally a dangerousously low level above the ground and then either impact and eject or eject just as it was going to impact.

if you want a good shuttle that is still available, buy this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dr-Zooch-Space-...1742.m153.l1262
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:20 AM
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so Mikus,

As an EST 1467 fan like me - any advice as to where I get a new one?
Thanks,
Richard


Ask around on the rocketry boards and watch ebay is the best I can advise. But I haven't seen one on ebay in months so the boards may be the best bet.

Find someone who regrets buying one and lowball 'em. Oh wait... that's my plan.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:27 AM
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Hi Shreadvector,
Well, naturally I have to bow before your vastly superior experience of rockets and I guess I am either a rocket flying prodigy or I've just been very lucky....

I've looked at the Dr. Zooch kit on various sites and without photos of what's in the kit, it does appear to me that it would require some time and skill to fabricate. I do have opposable thumbs and I'm not that bad at building models, but I do hesitate in building something that really has to be built to quite a high standard to have any chance of flying properly....

Your thoughts?

Thanks!
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:29 AM
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Hi Shreadvector,
Well, naturally I have to bow before your vastly superior experience of rockets and I guess I am either a rocket flying prodigy or I've just been very lucky....

I've looked at the Dr. Zooch kit on various sites and without photos of what's in the kit, it does appear to me that it would require some time and skill to fabricate. I do have opposable thumbs and I'm not that bad at building models, but I do hesitate in building something that really has to be built to quite a high standard to have any chance of flying properly....

Your thoughts?

Thanks!


if you want a fun flying model that is easy and works, then try one of these (not scale models of anything, just good and fun):

http://www.fliskits.com/products/ro...il/triglide.htm

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/est/est1480.htm
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:33 AM
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There's no external tank or SRBs. Plus it only comes in a launch kit.


Build the ET and SRB's from scratch; JP would know how to do that!
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:44 PM
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Build the ET and SRB's from scratch; JP would know how to do that!


JP has probably done it in his sleep... 3 times.


Top 10 Reasons why I dig my Flying Foam Shuttle Orbiter of Death... ok, Top 3.

1) It's named Challenger. If I ever acquire another, it will be named Columbia. I hope to never need a third.

2) I already have the Estes Master's Series Space Shuttle, EST# 1284 kit in the build queue, 2 of them in fact. If anything goes static, it will be one of the $60 kits, not the $25 (including launcher) foam shuttle.

3) Apparently I'm one of the only 8-9 people on the planet who can fly it successfully.
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