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The three Wal-Marts in my area all stock plenty of Krylon. One of them (the newest one) carries more of it than they carry of their own brand (or any other brand, for that matter). Maybe we got all of the Krylon that was supposed to go to the Wal-Marts in the Houston area? Matk \\.
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There's a Sears Hardware store a few miles from my house, and another full-blown Sears store at a nearby mall. Hmm...
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went by two Ace Hardwares, got eight cans of old gloss white! woot!
Also got one can of old gloss black, and picked up a can of the Ace branded gloss white that appears to have the same formulation as old Krylon. I'll give it a try soon, and look up the MSDS for it.
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Someone at work needed to paint something white, and bought Ace brand gloss white. He said it dried really fast. My first reaction was that maybe it is rebranded Krylon? I found one can of old Krylon white at one of our Walmarts, so I've got to check out the remaining stores, and the Kmart too. It is disappearing quickly.
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Well, I knew it would happen eventually, but OF (Old Formula) Krylon is starting to disappear from shelves around here, too now. (Fred, have you been making trips up to the North Country, recently? ) Because of that, I have been checking out the competition, and I've got to say, the application and recoat times of NF Krylon don't look all that bad by comparison. Rusto-Leum, Ace Hardware, and Walmart paint all have longer "recoat within" times, but the also all have much longer "recoat after" times as well. Walmart paint says to recoat within 4 hours or after one week. After seeing that, the "recoat after" time of 24 hours for NF Krylon doesn't look so bad anymore. (Krylon Fusion, which has been out for awhile now, has recoat times of within 24 hours or after 7 days.)
Also, I recently had to make the switch to NF Krylon Gloss White. After using it on a couple of projects, my verdict is: ...I...like...it. There, I said it. Now I need to head down to my bunker to wait out the inevitable hailstorm of sticks, stone and worse that are sure to be headed my way. Mark \\.
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I have used a couple of cans of the 'new' Krylon(not white) and have been satisfied with the results..So, make room in that bunker for me too!
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The long recoat time on the new paints is a pain, but I guess I've gotten used to it. I've never had good luck with any Krylon, so you guys can rest assured I'm not competing with you for the last cans...
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I've bought a white, black, and raspberry in the new formula, and will try it on a couple of little rockets first. But at the moment I'd rather deal with what I know, so at least my base coat will continue to be old formula white for awhile (and I'll try old topped with new soon).
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So the basic difference in the paints, as I understand it, is a change from using aromatic solvents to aliphatic solvents. Both are volatile organic compounds (VOC), but aliphatic is apparently much less volatile than aromatic.
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Generally speaking, the higher the volatile aromatic organic content, the quicker the paint dries and the nicer the finish.
Aliphatic solvents in paint almost always result in a dismally long drying time and the inability to recoat at anytime....must do it within so many minutes or after a couple of days...otherwise the finish will be a hideous mess. I still use good ol' new-old-stock Pactra AeroGloss dope for most of my rocket finishing via Airbrush, spray can, and brush-on. Needless to say, Aero Gloss dope has a HUGE % of Aromatic Volatile Organics (VOC) that the environmental whackos just hate. Ask me what I think of them.....
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