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Old 10-21-2009, 07:07 AM
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Try this:
http://www.morerockets.com/
I just ordered a Viper and a Dragon Ship.


I did a google search with "more rockets Sanbornville New Hampshire" and didn't get a hit. It never dawned on me to just type in morerockets.com.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:41 AM
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I have already stated that he has sold legit Estes kits, both current and OOP, along with clones.

As for the web page, do you mean the eBay auction page? I don't see a reference to a More Rockets web page.



If you read through the post, it gives you the impression that not only clones are being made, but copies of Estes kits that Estes still own the rights to.

I sent an email and "Dan" responded back with his site address

www.MoreRockets.com
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:03 AM
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In some auctions like the one below the seller is listing the kits as clones. Here is the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Starship-Excali...=item2c515b156e

I also see what TBZEP and RD are saying; he's also selling actual Estes kits as well. I wonder if the instructions in the clone kits are the actual Estes instructions. Since the Viper kit isn't designated as a clone I wonder if it's different than the Estes kit with different instructions.

I may have to buy one to find out.



I have heard that InFlight is going to produce a BSG Viper too in the near future. The Viper from Morerockets looks pretty good but the cone doesn't look quite right at the end. When we first began looking to build our clones we had thought we might just modify a stock Estes cone (I forget the number) but then Verna sent Mike one of our originals and he did a batch for Moldin Oldies so we went with his resin casts, which BTW, were excellent.

The photo of the More Rockets kit looks pretty good but I'm wondering if they are just using a modified cone, rather than one they have produced. The price for the kit is reasonable. I may get one as well.

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Old 10-21-2009, 10:40 AM
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I have heard that InFlight is going to produce a BSG Viper too in the near future. The Viper from Morerockets looks pretty good but the cone doesn't look quite right at the end. When we first began looking to build our clones we had thought we might just modify a stock Estes cone (I forget the number) but then Verna sent Mike one of our originals and he did a batch for Moldin Oldies so we went with his resin casts, which BTW, were excellent.



Randy - Great catch on that nose cone on the More Rockets viper. the cone looks like it's a bit too long to me. Also I can't tell if there's a cavity or not. All in all though it's a nice looking kit. I may grab one myself.

By the way I'm a big BSG viper fan. I've built one clone myself and have three more under construction. It was reading about and seeing Verna's vipers and Dr Sue's vipers that got me on this Viper kick.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:06 AM
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I seem to recall him making a post on TRF about one of his auctions for a clone kit a few months back. I can't recall his handle, though. I remember checking out the auction, but it wasn't anything I was particularly interested in. It looked to me like the instructions in that particular kit were just copies of the old Estes kit instructions.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:12 PM
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Just wondering....

Who is "More Rockets"?

I've been seeing clones on eBay, packaged with the header card of "More Rockets" and vendor name of "morerockets". The address is listed as Sanbornville, New Hampshire. Whoever it is has 100% feedback and is offering kits like the Estes BSG Viper and Flash Gordon Dragon Ship 7.


I have a More Rockets Viper kit that I won a couple of weeks ago. It looks like a well-done kit but I haven't been able to start it yet. Maybe this weekend if I'm lucky.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:15 PM
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Randy - Great catch on that nose cone on the More Rockets viper. the cone looks like it's a bit too long to me. Also I can't tell if there's a cavity or not. All in all though it's a nice looking kit. I may grab one myself.


It looks like a regular hollow plastic nose cone with a diagonal cut to take the top off.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:25 PM
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Estes doesn't seem to care but...

At the bottom of the decal scan for the Colonial Viper it says, "1978 Universal Studios Inc. All rights reserved. Trademarks of and Licenced by Universal Studios Inc."
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:02 PM
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It looks like a regular hollow plastic nose cone with a diagonal cut to take the top off.


Thanks Mikus.

I ordered balsa nose cones from Semroc, cut them at an angle, and then drilled them about an inch deep. That way I was able to glue the nose cone lead weights in and it also has that cool scoop look from the front.

I don't know if I got the angle completely right, but it works for me.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:23 PM
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That "cool scoop" probably reduces the altitude obtained with any given engine by at least 200 feet.

I wish somebody made a "scale like" BSG Viper FLYING rocket kit that has the correct RECTANGULAR fuselage/engine intakes profile in front and round exhausts in back.
The Estes kit always appeared too "Stand WAY OFF-scale" to me.
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