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turbofireball 09-12-2020 11:09 AM

New Estes Saturn V and 1B are coming soon!
 
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My local hobby shop got these images from their distributor:
#1973 Saturn V Skylab - suggested retail $99.99
Requires Engines E16-4, F15-4
#7251 Saturn 1B - suggested retail $69.99
Requires Engines: C11-3, D12-3, E12-6
No info on exact dates, but before the holiday season.

jeffyjeep 09-12-2020 12:02 PM

Giggidy!

BEC 09-12-2020 12:13 PM

Interesting that the S-V is redone to take 29mm motors.....It will be interesting to see how much weight is added for stability and how that plays against the low thrust of the BP 29mm motors.

I put a 29mm mount in my 2157 Saturn-V but so far have only flown it on Aerotech E28s. Not very Saturn-V like in the liftoff, but nice and straight.

tbzep 09-12-2020 12:13 PM

No "coming soon" on Estes' or AC Supply's site yet.

They are begging for removable mounts so I can dial in performance based on the recovery area. :cool:

ghrocketman 09-12-2020 12:17 PM

Great !
Plan to order 2 of each.

tbzep 09-12-2020 12:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEC
Interesting that the S-V is redone to take 29mm motors.....It will be interesting to see how much weight is added for stability and how that plays against the low thrust of the BP 29mm motors.

I put a 29mm mount in my 2157 Saturn-V but so far have only flown it on Aerotech E28s. Not very Saturn-V like in the liftoff, but nice and straight.

I'm not fond of the Saturn V on high performance motors. Even a four motor cluster of B6's kicks off too fast for me. A single D12 is as close to scale as you can get and gives nice low controlled flights for tiny fields, but it would be nice to have an extended burn for higher flights. I've been happiest with three C6's to get the fun of clustering while producing a little more altitude than a single D12. I haven't done any with C5's, but I did blow up my vintage Centuri Saturn 1B with a C5 in the late 80's or early 90's.

As for the new Saturn, if the redesign is very heavy, I'll probably just use the tubes and make my own internals to keep it light. All I need is enough strength for a BP cluster in a removable mount. I'll do a removable mount so I could throw in an AP E15 or BP E if I wanted, but I doubt I'd ever fly it that way.

I'll probably do a removable mount on the 1B as well. A single C5 will do the job on tiny fields, and a cluster of B6's will satisfy the cluster bug and a D12 or pair C6's will kick the snot out of it.

Funny thing is that I've got a 2001 Saturn V and a 2048 Saturn 1B in various stages of paint...and they've been that way a long time. I guess I need to get 'em done and out of the way.

jeffyjeep 09-12-2020 12:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEC
Interesting that the S-V is redone to take 29mm motors.....It will be interesting to see how much weight is added for stability and how that plays against the low thrust of the BP 29mm motors.

I put a 29mm mount in my 2157 Saturn-V but so far have only flown it on Aerotech E28s. Not very Saturn-V like in the liftoff, but nice and straight.


Do you know What kind of altitude you got on the E28?

PaulK 09-12-2020 02:26 PM

One of each, please! I built the 2169 with a 5 motor cluster - it needed so much nose weight, the liftoff is still nice and slow. I'll probably build the Skylab stock, see if I can build it to fly with the 4 outer engine bells in place.

BEC 09-12-2020 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffyjeep
Do you know What kind of altitude you got on the E28?


Oddly, Jeff, this is one of the few models I've not flown an altimeter in. I would guess 300-400 feet.

tdracer 09-12-2020 02:59 PM

All the Estes Saturn V fliers I build now days have 29mm mounts (or bigger - I've done a couple with 38mm mounts to fly on I49/I59 motors with electronic ejection). You can always use a 24mm motor with a 29mm mount, but not the other way around.
No matter how light you build it, an Estes Saturn V with a D12-3 is marginal for a safe recovery - even the slightest problem can turn it into a lawndart. A G25W is a wonderful motor for an Estes Saturn V, I haven't tried an F15 yet, but it should also work pretty nice.

I wonder how Estes will release the Saturn V Skylab? There was a plastic model Skylab Saturn I picked up several years ago that had parts for both the Skylab and Apollo versions - I wonder if Estes will do that? Or will they release another batch of 1969 Saturn Vs?


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