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scigs30 01-28-2019 06:18 PM

Vintage Estes K36 Saturn Build
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I now have another new Estes Saturn V like everyone else but will hold off building it for now, figure there are plenty of other builders who cant wait to get started. I do want to build a Saturn V for the 50th anniversary. I have a couple of old Saturn V kits that are in short boxes with one being older than the other. The kits are identical with parts except the older model has balsa half dowels vs hardwood and the older kit has the old parachutes. Both kits are in great condition minus the Bt-101 tubes and JT-101 couplers, they are a little distorted in both kits. I am leaning on building the older Saturn V Pre-Damon log, maybe I will just flip a coin. I will be building out of the box with all original parts except the rubber shock cord since it is pretty old and way too short. It will be a little bit before I can start building since I am working on fixing the slightly deformed bt-101 tubes. As soon as they hold their shape I will get started. Just a note, the older box opens from the top or bottom, and the newer box lid comes off to access all the parts.

Newbomb Turk 01-28-2019 08:04 PM

Awesome! Can't wait to follow this one!

5x7 01-28-2019 08:13 PM

I would love to see the older one!

K'Tesh 01-29-2019 05:55 AM

I'm in the hospital right now. So, I have limited internet access, and can't do the searching that I would usually do before replying.

IINM, the old Estes Kits were pop tops whereas the Centuri kits split at the 2nd and third stage transition.
The Estes Kits had some deployment issues that the Centuri didn't.

If this is correct... I would recommend building it in the Centuri style.

ghrocketman 01-29-2019 07:52 AM

Agree about deployment.
Do NOT have it deploy the laundry at the capsule separation point of the original K36.
On a single D12 it WILL fail to eject.
Have it separate the "Centuri" way if you intend to fly it.

tbzep 01-29-2019 08:32 AM

How many centering rings does the K-36 use? If it has a bunch like my old Centuri kit, it should round itself out pretty good with minimal work ahead of time.

K'Tesh 01-29-2019 10:32 AM

One possible option... build it Centuri style but try and incorporate the Estes techniques in a non deployable form so it could show how both worked.

I always use fishing swivels to attach parachutes... If you were to as well, you could use the 50 year old shock cord in the Estes section with a minimum weight penalty.

hcmbanjo 01-29-2019 10:59 AM

Wow - Originals!

Like everybody else, I'd go with the Centuri mid-point separation.
You probably already know this -
Be sure to test fit the corrugated card stock wrap fit before gluing.
On the last one I made the wrap ends didn't meet.

Looking forward to the build!

Scott6060842 01-29-2019 11:18 AM

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Awesome, I will be following this built. I recently bought a K-36 to build for the anniversary. It looks like I have the newer version. It appears complete and in good builder condition. I paid $100 BIN with free shipping so hopefully I didn't overpay too much.

tbzep 01-29-2019 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Scott6060842
I paid $100 BIN with free shipping so hopefully I didn't overpay too much.

Newly released #1969 kits retail for $89 and it probably costs about $10 to ship so you're in the ball park without factoring in how scarce and/or collectible it may be. You have classic box art to display, so that's also a bonus. Some folks will think you got a bargain, some will think you overpaid. If you're happy, you didn't overpay.

BTW, the K-36 is a bit more accurately scaled with the embossed paper wraps and smaller fins.

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