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teflonrocketry1 12-01-2019 03:54 PM

Estes Cherokee-E, 2408, Hobby Lobby Exclusive & Magician 2440
 
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Attached is the RockSim flight simulation file I created for the Estes Cherokee-E, EST 2408, Hobby Lobby Exclusive. This file does not contain pods so it can be opened with Open Rocket software. I wonder why this design did not come out as a payload model; which would provide a even better stability margin especially if someone wanted to use larger 24mm composite motors? This would be an easy conversion; switch the main and lower body tubes and add a BT55 bulkhead and screw eye to the bottom of the red tube coupler. I also would suggest using a 24mm motor retainer (Estes part number 009751) instead of the Engine hook.

ghrocketman 12-01-2019 07:31 PM

I'm ditching the red tube coupler completely and am using a proper balsa payload bulkhead.
Rocketarium metal screw-on engine retainer also.

LeeR 12-02-2019 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ghrocketman
I'm ditching the red tube coupler completely and am using a proper balsa payload bulkhead.
Rocketarium metal screw-on engine retainer also.


The Rocketarium retainers are nice. I loaded up on both the 18mm and 24mm sizes when they were first announced. The pricing special when they were first introduced was pretty attractive.

ghrocketman 12-03-2019 09:12 AM

I bought a bunch of 24mm at that time as well.

teflonrocketry1 12-05-2019 02:37 PM

FYI

K'Tesh's OpenRocket (ORK) file for the Cherokee-E can be found on the other forum at: https://www.rocketryforum.com/threa...4/#post-1433619

Jack Hydrazine's 3D printer files for the Cherokee-E can be found in the 3D Printing Asylum at:
Entire Cherokee-E model rocket: https://forums.rocketshoppe.com/showthread.php?t=18207
Nosecone only (PNC-55AC): https://forums.rocketshoppe.com/showthread.php?t=18189

BARGeezer 12-05-2019 03:39 PM

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I just built one last night. I believe it's a Magician with the payload section, nose cone, and transition removed and replaced with a BT-55 nose cone.
Many of the Hobby Lobby "exclusives" are Estes kits with minor changes:
Luna Bug and Mosquito
ESAM-58 and Sasha
Solo and Double Ringer
Vapor and Star Orbiter
Epic II and Sterling Silver
This minimizes developmental costs for Estes while retaining HL as a customer with "exclusive" kits only available from them.

Jack Hydrazine 12-13-2019 05:48 PM

Both of them look great. Now on to the priming, sanding and painting!

teflonrocketry1 12-14-2019 02:16 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BARGeezer
I just built one last night. I believe it's a Magician with the payload section, nose cone, and transition removed and replaced with a BT-55 nose cone.
Many of the Hobby Lobby "exclusives" are Estes kits with minor changes:
Luna Bug and Mosquito
ESAM-58 and Sasha
Solo and Double Ringer
Vapor and Star Orbiter
Epic II and Sterling Silver
This minimizes developmental costs for Estes while retaining HL as a customer with "exclusive" kits only available from them.


I compared the instructions for the Estes Magician and Cherokee-E and it appears that you are correct. Attached is the RockSim flight simulation file I created for the Estes Magician #2440. This file does not contain pods so it can be opened with Open Rocket software.


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