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Old 03-24-2020, 12:13 AM
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I just came across color films--from 1958 and 1959--on the USAF X-17 ICBM warhead re-entry test missiles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-ZMALHpOE and the U.S. Navy's Operation Argus X-17 vehicles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe4UZK3_FiU , which carried low-yield atomic bombs into space to test their artificial radiation belt creation effects (other rocket vehicles are also shown in the Operation Argus film). The X-17--in both versions--would make a fine flying scale model rocket kit (a builder-customize-able one)...
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Old 03-24-2020, 08:39 AM
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I had always wondered if as modified X-17 could have launched a small satellite.
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The original Argus was designed to DELIBERATELY POWR-PRANG !
The third stage fired when pointed DOWNWARD toward terra-firma.
This should be allowed in NAR Scale Competition as this IS the scale flight profile.
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I had always wondered if as modified X-17 could have launched a small satellite.
Maybe (at least with an added fourth stage), although gravity--while its second and third stages fired downward--gave it much of its ICBM-level velocity.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:53 AM
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The original Argus was designed to DELIBERATELY POWR-PRANG !
The third stage fired when pointed DOWNWARD toward terra-firma.
This should be allowed in NAR Scale Competition as this IS the scale flight profile.
I was hoping you would chime in with that, and you did not disappoint (and I heartily agree!). A patch of land for impacts could be "held separate" (or cleared for the event). R/C-ignited upper stages would enable--with two-station, azimuth & elevation tracking (or three-station, elevation-only tracking)--safe "re-entry" flights; the upper stage motors could simply not be ignited if tracking indicated that the models would stray beyond the "impact field" boundaries. It would also enable depiction of the early 1957 "runaway X-17" flight, when all three stages fired going UP, propelling the third stage and its re-entry test nose cone over 1,000 miles high! Also:

Operation Argus X-17 round models would turn in interesting "flight points"; flash powder payloads could simulate their atomic bomb payloads...
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