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Old 05-14-2013, 08:27 PM
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One trick to using these is to wet the surface of the rocket with some mildly soapy water. This gives you some time to get it positioned properly. Then you screed it to squeeze the moisture out.

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I actually had to look up the word "screed".

I too am NOT a fan of pressure-sensitive decals. IMO the worse set of pressure sensitive decals and the hardest to apply are (were) the decals for the Estes 1:30 scale Spaceship One.

IMO second place for decal suckiness goes to Quest's Aerospace One.

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I actually had to look up the word "screed".

You don't pour much concrete on a submarine, eh?

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:08 PM
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You don't pour much concrete....
That's the context in which I learned it

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Old 05-15-2013, 07:43 AM
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You don't pour much concrete on a submarine, eh?

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I've heard "screed" used to refer to a written work or message, but I don't know if that's a proper or a slang usage.
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Let me refraise my statement. All NEW builder kits that have come out in the past three years have water slide decals. Kits that were designed before three years ago could have water slide or self stick decals. SO, if a builder kit that was designed before the time I arrived at Estes has self stick decals it will most likely have self stick decals until it is taken out of the product line. So if a hobby shop orders a builder kit today it may in fact have self stick decals in it if it's an older designed model.


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From what I gather here, you work (or worked) for Estes? Is that correct? Remember, I'm still new to the forum, and haven't learned who's who, and all the wherewithal that comes from time being here for a while.

Next, can a person tell the difference between a kit with self adhesive decals and one with water slide decals just by looking at the color of the decal backing paper? The reason I say this is that all the rockets I saw at my LHS had yellow backed decals and were turned in such as way as I couldn't see the designs on them. I recently picked up a Mean Machine, and a CC Express (both for parts) that I picked up there both had self adhesive decals with a yellow backing paper.

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This is my second round of employeement at Estes which started three years ago.

Current water slide decals are on a white background. As stated it appears the self stick decals are on a yellow background. I believe both of these come with a yellow protective sheet over the printed side to protect them in the packaging. I would say it would be very difficult to to tell which kind is included in the package.


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If I can build one of your rocket kits, and I can fill and sand things smooth, I can probably use water slide decals too. Those I have time to make adjustments if I make a minor mistake in placement.

Self adhesive decals SUCK!!!. Stickers are fine for the kiddies first rockets (you know, the ones that are tiny, and use small engines), but they shouldn't be much larger than an inch in diameter. Large wraps (e.g. the Mercury Redstone and the Venus Probe), and long name decals (e.g. CC Express and the Mean Machine) have no business being made from self adhesive decal material.

Please STOP doing that to us! Your customers will be a heck of a lot happier if you do. Then again, 3rd party suppliers might not like you too much.

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Custom uses self adhesives for many of their current kits. I like the rockets for their value but not their stickers.
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Custom uses self adhesives for many of their current kits. I like the rockets for their value but not their stickers.
It could be worse...the original (BT-70) Estes Gemini Titan-3 (GT-3) scale kit came with a paper paint pattern wrap for the Titan II booster, and its markings were transferred to the model by applying the wrap and then pouring lighter fluid onto the wrap! If Semroc ever releases a "Retro-Repro" GT-3 kit or xKit, including a notice placard saying "Please do not smoke while working on this kit" might be prudent. :-)
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I actually had to look up the word "screed".
You don't pour much concrete on a submarine, eh?



Only around the screen doors and sunroofs...


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