Carl, I was really hoping you would have been contracted by Estes to produce balsa parts, I guess that is not going to happen. You have done so much over the years for this hobby that I cannot thank you enough. I hope you get through this and Hobbico comes to there senses. Good luck, our prayers are with you.

(mutter grumble)

This stinks.

As opposed to cursing the darkness, I lit a candle.

I ordered a bunch of kits from Semroc.

They deserve my business.

I encourage others to do likewise.

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I called and had a long chat with Carl on the phone. He is not very happy to say the least.

He is recovering from his heart attack and was doing well until today. The last thing he needs is stress and this just gave him lots of it.

I gave him my opinion but I am not a lawyer. (Those comments are private and I won't discuss them here) I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night either. I advised Carl to contact a lawyer and respond before the 19th.

I don't think it will be a problem, but I do advise every one to be careful with what they say on the forum, in emails, on in PM's as the messages can be subpoenaed.

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I'm with Guy Black. Aphelion and XK23 are Semroc designed kits. I think a couple more for inventory or my wife's gala he's dead and I can now sell his stuff sale, whichever comes first is a great idea.

Malcolm Smith

Very sorry to hear this, Carl. Maybe these are good business tactics for Hobbico, but they're not going to help anyone else.

I'm surprised that they would pursue all of this from a copyright angle, but it would seem that their legal team has a strategy in mind. I'd be a little more worried about the commercial sale of reproduction decals - decals are, in fact, copyrightable material.

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Carl,
I'm sorry to see this development.

You and your family at Semroc have given all of us a fitting tribute to what Model Rocketry was and should be.

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This will more than likely open up a can of worms....What about BMS? More Rockets? After Market decals? The list goes on. Hobbico is a big Giant and I think we are now seeing the good with the bad since they took over Estes.

I guess I better download the plans from Jimz and Ye Old Rocket Shoppe before Hobbico attacks that.

All those resources should actively state they recognize all intellectual property rights Estes-Cox has or might claim are not being contested. That these things are being offered as a historical tribute and niche after market products and in every way we encourage purchase of any and all shipping Estes-Cox products, especially engines!

Jerry

My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours Carl. I hope all turns out well for you in the end.

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