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Old 06-01-2009, 07:07 AM
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I collect Alphas, and have two versions of the Alpha II from (I believe) the 1990's. One version is a standard hangtag kit and the other is an educator pack with building supplies including glue a knife and a guidebook similar to the old 1970's F.R.O.G.S. educator pack. The educator kit has fin lines already drawn on the BT. Both have plastic nosecones, and both have die cut fins.

I have been told over the years that the Alpha II moniker was a mostly internal designation for Alpha kits with the plastic nosecone. Jimi, it appears that your ALPHA II has the fin lines drawn on the tube as well. Am I correct? This is the only difference I can see from the regular Balsa coned Alpha of the period. I have ever seen the wonderful early 70's version you have, it is a great find!

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Old 06-01-2009, 08:04 AM
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I collect Alphas, and have two versions of the Alpha II from (I believe) the 1990's. One version is a standard hangtag kit and the other is an educator pack with building supplies including glue a knife and a guidebook similar to the old 1970's F.R.O.G.S. educator pack. The educator kit has fin lines already drawn on the BT. Both have plastic nosecones, and both have die cut fins.

I have been told over the years that the Alpha II moniker was a mostly internal designation for Alpha kits with the plastic nosecone. Jimi, it appears that your ALPHA II has the fin lines drawn on the tube as well. Am I correct? This is the only difference I can see from the regular Balsa coned Alpha of the period. I have ever seen the wonderful early 70's version you have, it is a great find!

Phred

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I think you may have answered my question. I have an Alpha like the one you have in the educator pack;it has the same decals and a plastic nose cone. The facecard just said "Alpha". Wonder when they dropped the "II" designation. Thanks,Phred.

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Old 06-01-2009, 09:48 AM
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Jimi,
So sorry to hear your Dad has passed. Our prayers are with you and your family.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:08 PM
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I collect Alphas, and have two versions of the Alpha II from (I believe) the 1990's. One version is a standard hangtag kit and the other is an educator pack with building supplies including glue a knife and a guidebook similar to the old 1970's F.R.O.G.S. educator pack. The educator kit has fin lines already drawn on the BT. Both have plastic nosecones, and both have die cut fins.

I have been told over the years that the Alpha II moniker was a mostly internal designation for Alpha kits with the plastic nosecone. Jimi, it appears that your ALPHA II has the fin lines drawn on the tube as well. Am I correct? This is the only difference I can see from the regular Balsa coned Alpha of the period. I have ever seen the wonderful early 70's version you have, it is a great find!

Phred

Below are pics of the front and back of the kits:



Hi Phred, I just check out the Alpha II, Yes it has the fin lines drawn on the tube. I also found out that the Fins are die-cut on this Alpha II version.

Take Care, Jimi
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:10 PM
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Jimi,
So sorry to hear your Dad has passed. Our prayers are with you and your family.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:13 PM
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Jimi,

could you check the Alpha II balsa sheet and tell us if it is die cut?

If so then that would be the difference to the normal Alpha.

Thanks,

Leo

PS: Sorry to read about your dad.


Thank You Leo, Yes they are die-cut fins.

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Old 06-03-2009, 03:52 PM
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Hi Everyone, Here are a few more pics to enjoy of my vintage kits. Sorry for delay in getting more on, my Dad passed away.

Estes Pre-Damon Astron Nighthawk Mint Unopened

Estes Astron Starlight Mint Unopened

Estes Pre-Damon Astron Trident Mint UNopenedn

Estes Astron Beta Mint Unopened

Estes Astron Alpha II Mint Unopened (Kit #EK-25)

Take Care, Jimi



Here are a few more Pics

These Boxes are loaded with Vintage Rocketry Catalogs many in Mint Condition and many of them in quantities

Some of my Shelves loaded with Rocketry Goodies. A bit messey as I am working on my room. My collection also cantaines many Catalogs, Model Rocket News, Centuri News Letters and many other Model Rocketry Publication going back to the 1960s and up.

Estes EAC Club Kit #1447 This Pic is how they came when ordered direct from Estes

Estes EAC Club Kit #1447 This Pic is how they came if your bought at a hobby shop

Enjoy, Jimi
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:23 AM
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[QUOTE=Jimid123]Hi Everyone, Here are a few more pics to enjoy of my vintage kits. Sorry for delay in getting more on, my Dad passed away.
Sorry to hear about your Dad Jimi, hope you're doing ok (my Mom passed a few months ago too, and its been difficult).

I'm thoroughly enjoying seeing pics of your collection, thanks for continuing to share.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:04 AM
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[QUOTE=Jimid123]Sorry to hear about your Dad Jimi, hope you're doing ok (my Mom passed a few months ago too, and its been difficult).

I'm thoroughly enjoying seeing pics of your collection, thanks for continuing to share.



Thank You, And I am glad you are enjoying the pics, Jimi

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Old 06-23-2009, 12:21 AM
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Thank You, And I am glad you are enjoy the pics, Jimi



Here are a few more pics to enjoy

Estes KS-2 Starter Set From 1970. Box Includes Alpha III kit with Clear Parts, Three Model Rocket Engins, Recovery Wadding, Model Rocktry Book and Instructions on how to build your own Lanch Pad and Controller Plus an Estes Catalog

Estes Pre Demon with Hang Tag Astron Ranger Mint In Unopened Pack

Estes Astron Skydart Mint In Unopened Pack

Estes Very First Packaging of there Goblin Kit Mint In Unopened Pack. (This Was Given As A Free Kit before they issued this as a standard kit to Buy) ( Released in 1970 as a Free Kit. Was issued as a standerd Kit in 1972)
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