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Old 05-31-2019, 10:31 PM
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Default Mars Lander - Crew egress and crew location?

So, as I've been working up a few decal extras for my Mars Lander Quadcopter, I've been wondering where the theoretical crew would have been for flight, and where the hatch might be.

If it was supposed to be a HUGE vehicle, then perhaps the nose cone is like a Command Module, where the crew would be inside of that.

Or if it was smaller, more like a Lunar Module but a bit bigger, then the crew would have been inside some part of the Ascent Stage, say perhaps the upper 30-40% of the Ascent Stage shroud (the uppermost segment of the shroud, not including nose cone).



Based on technology of today..... crewed landers do NOT need windows. At least not for piloting purposes for landing. Powered Landings can be 100% automatic (The LM HAD that option but none of the Astronauts allowed it to happen), or semi-piloted (automated with human input to adjust where it lands, more like what Apollo Lunar landings were like. They were not directly hand-flown like a helicopter). But even for semi-piloting, the people doing it could be looking at computer screens displaying video from cameras of the view, plus lots of data, much like a computer simulation, not windows (windows = risk and extra mass). So, I'm not inclined to give it windows for landing, though a lot of that is for example Lunar Module type windows might ruin the stylistic effect of the Mars Lander (Never mind the four arms and electric motors and props, but the markings, color, and details on the surface of the Mars Lander itself).

In the end, maybe I don't do anything decal-wise to address a hatch or where the crew might be for landing. Certainly not going to add a ladder (Even SpaceX is talking about a winch and cable system if they get humans to Mars, not ladders).

Some of the things in the sheet below are things I added but may not use. Cleaned up some things, like the US Flag that was a bit fuzzy in the scan I had. There are some multiples for spares. I changed the "4" to "5" to represent the 5 decades of the kit's existence (not counting calendar decades, but 5 decades as in 50 years) . Later moved the NASA logo and made it to the height of the "5" so that in some ways it looks like 50.



Crash-damaged Ascent shroud, after adding a NASA logo under the 5.
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