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Old 01-02-2012, 05:03 AM
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Luke Strawwalker inspired this thread, when he commented (in the "White Vulcan" thread) that the White Vulcan with a pointed nose cone resembled the spaceship in the original "Planet of the Apes" movies. This spaceship, called Icarus, would lend itself to cardstock construction, being an elliptical cross-section cone with "notched-in" windows, triangular cross-section "strake-type wings," and triangular cross-section "strake-type canards." Also:

Interestingly, its sharp-nosed shape is not terribly different from the shapes of the recent hypersonic boost-glide test vehicles, whose shapes have only recently been made practical by the development of new, exceptionally-tough, ceramic composite materials. Also, early tests of these new ceramic materials involved small strakes (similar in shape to those on Icarus) that were affixed to the re-entry vehicles of Minuteman III ICBMs that were launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base. Below are links to images of, information on, and plans for (with dimensioned drawings, see the third link) the Icarus spaceship. A model rocket version might make a decent, if fast-gliding, boost-glider. Here are the links:

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehic...hip/PofA01.html

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-...biw=792&bih=377

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehic...hip/PofA01.html

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehic...tasyModels.html

I hope this information will be helpful.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:34 AM
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:01 AM
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Excellent! I found one "facto" (factual error) in my initial posting, though--the spaceship was never called Icarus (or anything other than the "crew capsule") in the original "Planet of the Apes" movies. The name "Icarus" was retroactively bestowed upon it by a fan and movie prop researcher based on these spaceships' habits of returning to crash on Earth, rather like the mythological Icarus! :-)
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:38 AM
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Thank you for posting the links! Also, Lance Brick (creator of the paper Icarus model http://pota.goatley.com/paper-icarus/ ) mentioned that "While there are model kits out for this ship now; when I first started this endeavor, I wasn't aware of any." Those kits (either injection-molded, vacu-formed, or resin--he didn't say) might make PMC (Plastic Model Conversion) model rockets.
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Neat idea, blackshire... thanks for the credit... LOL It was late last night and I had a LLLLOOOONNNNGGGG drive back from Indiana, and I just plain couldn't think of the "Icarus" ship name... didn't even think to look it up online either... I'm just chillin' today...

Good link...
http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/alie...fiction_gb.html

Awhile back I was researching the Icarus and came up with several sites, but I'm having trouble finding them now... I know I bookmarked them but one of these days I really need to go in and sort through my bookmarks...

I remember there was an interesting discussion that the Icarus we saw in the original POTA (Planet Of The Apes) movies were actually configured differently than what we saw on screen... including additional booster/descent/landing stages and such that were either "submerged" in the lake shots of the original "Icarus" when Taylor and Co. bailed out in the original movie, or were burned up in "damaged Icarus" shown in the second movie that Brent and "Skipper" landed in the desert in... or jettisoned before reentry or shortly before landing according to the ship seen in the the third movie that Zira, Cornelius, and Milo took back to 20th century Earth... There was even a website that showed a four or five stage "nuclear Saturn V" type rocket that was purportedly used to launch the Icarus and get it up to interstellar speeds...

I'll have to keep checking for those websites and post the links...

Later! OL JR
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Another Icarus Model with more detail.

http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/alie...e_modely_gb.htm

Click on the box below the 2.2 moon on the right hand side.

It has the Icarus and a booster model.

I did click on the link and it is safe.
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When you fly your Icarus, make sure you don't fly it too high or too low

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Neat idea, blackshire... thanks for the credit... LOL It was late last night and I had a LLLLOOOONNNNGGGG drive back from Indiana, and I just plain couldn't think of the "Icarus" ship name... didn't even think to look it up online either... I'm just chillin' today...
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Good link...
http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/alie...fiction_gb.html

Awhile back I was researching the Icarus and came up with several sites, but I'm having trouble finding them now... I know I bookmarked them but one of these days I really need to go in and sort through my bookmarks...

I remember there was an interesting discussion that the Icarus we saw in the original POTA (Planet Of The Apes) movies were actually configured differently than what we saw on screen... including additional booster/descent/landing stages and such that were either "submerged" in the lake shots of the original "Icarus" when Taylor and Co. bailed out in the original movie, or were burned up in "damaged Icarus" shown in the second movie that Brent and "Skipper" landed in the desert in... or jettisoned before reentry or shortly before landing according to the ship seen in the the third movie that Zira, Cornelius, and Milo took back to 20th century Earth... There was even a website that showed a four or five stage "nuclear Saturn V" type rocket that was purportedly used to launch the Icarus and get it up to interstellar speeds...

I'll have to keep checking for those websites and post the links...

Later! OL JR
That's a good site above, and I saw the other Icarus site that you're referring to "about two computers ago..." It covered the complete "starship package" of which the Icarus was a planetary EDL (Entry/Descent/Landing) "boat" for landing on planets with sensible atmospheres and returning to rejoin the starship in orbit after surface sorties. The thing I like about the Icarus design (besides its aesthetics) is its realism--an actual vehicle built for those purposes might very well look much like Icarus, especially now that new ceramic composites that make high-lift, sharp-nosed lifting entry vehicles practical have been developed and successfully tested.
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Another Icarus Model with more detail.

http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/alie...e_modely_gb.htm

Click on the box below the 2.2 moon on the right hand side.

It has the Icarus and a booster model.

I did click on the link and it is safe.
I'm not seeing what you referred to above (I don't know what a "2.2 moon" is, and the open box below the blue planet image on the left side of the "screen-page" doesn't do anything when clicked on); however, I did find this nice original artwork poster of Icarus (see: http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/alie.../AP09-2-500.jpg ) when I scrolled down to the bottom of the "screen-page."
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