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Old 02-08-2020, 09:02 PM
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Default Best Glue for Estes Plastic to Estes Craft Tubing?

What type of glue are you using for Estes Plastic parts to Craft tubing and why?

Orange tube Testors just doesn't get the job done even before any changes to the glue as far as I'm concerned.

Seems like the glue attaches better to the plastic and not so good to the paper tube. Good for about a year in some cases, but sooner or later, the joint will need re-glued.
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Old 02-08-2020, 09:23 PM
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I have been using RC airplane “canopy glue” for this purpose for most of my term as a BAR (such as Pacer Formula 560). Recently, however, I’ve seen the recommendation of Beacon Fabri-Tac (from hcmbanjo, in particular). While I have not yet used it, I HAVE used a similar product, Beacon Foam-Tac, and it is working well. For field repairs, medium CA works.
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Old 02-08-2020, 09:49 PM
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Use an MMA (Methyl Methacrylate Adhesive). It will bond to both the plastic and the paper. An example of an MMA is Devcon Plastic Welder. Here's one from ASI https://www.gluegun.com/products/as...ethacrylate-mma
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:30 AM
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I’ve had great luck with Fabri-Tac, first hearing about it on Chris Michielssen’s blog, Model Rocket Building. As Bernard (BEC) mentioned, Chris is member hcmbanjo here on YORF.
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:24 AM
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I use epoxy.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:52 AM
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I use epoxy.

Ditto
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:19 AM
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I use medium CA, it adheres well to both surfaces.
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:52 AM
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Medium CA in that application over time will loosen.
Epoxy will not.
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The Fabri-Tac works great for plastic to body tube gluing.

http://modelrocketbuilding.blogspot...t-4-gluing.html

It was made for gluing synthetic fabrics together.
It has some Acetone in it and acts like the old plastic cement that came in a tube.
Maybe it's a little thicker than the old tube glues.
When you pull the bottle away from the gluing surface, you'll have strings (or webbing)
like the old glues.

It's good for larger pieces like a fin can or adapter to body tube.
It is not good for gluing up Mercury Redstone or Apollo Capsule towers.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:50 PM
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I'd go with 5-minute epoxy.
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