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Old 07-30-2022, 07:23 AM
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Default SO much for the E-Ray Corvette

The prototype E-Ray Corvette went up in flames wile being tested in Spain.
I will walk first before I drive any E vehicle. Opened our pipeline back up!
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Old 07-30-2022, 07:46 AM
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Have you ever actually tried driving an EV?
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Old 07-30-2022, 08:28 AM
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With EV you have two choices: Slow and long range of Quick and short range.
I don't care for either. My Daughter has a Tesla, very quick only 200 Mile +- Range unless you baby it.
My wife's cousin has a Toyota, not so quick but 300 mile + range.
My wife's cousin's Husband owns Midwest Electrical Consultants in Chicago Il,
MY 3rd. cousin works in sale's for Norton, Selling EV charging stations.
So I don't support the family business OH WELL.
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Old 07-30-2022, 08:46 AM
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I'll likely own a hybrid before a full EV.

I will not consider an EV until they get the range over 400 miles running air conditioning and the charging time well below one hour so that I can recharge it while eating a meal.


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Old 07-30-2022, 09:38 AM
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While "possible", electrical vehicles are not yet "practical".

Advantages :

(1) Non-polluting
(2) Quiet

Disadvantages :

(1) Expensive
(2) Short driving range
(3) Slow-charging
(4) Batteries lose approximately 10% of their capacity per year
(5) Batteries are expensive to replace
(6) On a large scale, the "infrastructure" to recharge them is totally inadequate
(7) In addition to everything that is currently powered by electricity, when will the additional power to recharge millions to hundreds of millions of vehicles

Hypothetical Scenario :

Think of this scenario . . . You are in Chicago, on the interstate, in the Winter, on a day with temperatures at or below zero. A massive accident completely blocks the highway and the nearest exit is 20 miles away. Thousands of electric cars are trapped on the highway and motorists have to run their heaters on Full, due to the freezing weather. The road takes many hours to clear and, by the time it is clear, almost all of those cars have depleted their batteries . . . How do you get all of those immobile cars off the highway? How long would it take ? How do you recharge all of them ? How do you accommodate all of those people ? Remember that this is in extremely cold, near or below zero Winter weather.

Conclusion :

Electric vehicles may be the "way of the future", but it is simply not feasible, at this point in time . . . Perhaps, in 20-30 years.

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Old 07-30-2022, 10:37 AM
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While "possible", electrical vehicles are not yet "practical".

Advantages :

(1) Non-polluting
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They are not even remotely non-polluting, so you can't even put that in the advantage column. Electricity to charge them is not pollution free. As they cut back on coal fired plants, more and more gas turbine plants are replacing them. The turbines put about as much CO and CO2 in the air as scrubbed coal plants. Every hydro dam has bast@rdized nature and any future ones will also change the landscape. You can't stick enough windmills and solar panels out there to compensate for the ever growing demand. Only in the last few years have solar cells broken even in the amount of energy they produce in their lifetime vs how much was required to source the materials and make them. They have always been a net negative for energy and are just barely net positive now. The environment is also seriously compromised for resources used in battery production. A big lithium battery plant is being built between me and Memphis. Its footprint will destroy nearly 4,000 acres of nature and farmland. Most of the worlds lithium sourcing and battery production is done in China where they don't give a flying nuckfut about the environment. Electric cars won't be helping the environment anytime soon, they will just be changing the way they destroy it. Twenty or thirty years from now, maybe technology will be far enough along to have a decent net positive affect.

I'd say the only advantages are:
Quiet
Instant torque
Pollutes the rest of the world, but not right where you are.
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Actually, I'm more of a fan of the Hydrogen Power Cell, but I wouldn't want to be driving around in a "Mini-Hinderburg" . . . B-O-O-M !

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Old 07-30-2022, 11:47 AM
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Frankly, nuclear power is the only viable option ( for electricity, not cars ).

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Old 07-30-2022, 12:15 PM
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Agree with the nuclear option for power plants.
Some fuel cell vehicles use methanol that is converted to hydrogen before using in the cell.
That way, large quantities of hydrogen on board are avoided.
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Most of the worlds lithium sourcing and battery production is done in China . . .


Probably one of the BEST reasons to say NO to electric vehicles !

China could easily LIMIT or STOP production of batteries for electric cars and use that as LEVERAGE to CONTROL the USA, since we would be totally dependent on them, transportation-wise !

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