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Old 03-05-2021, 04:47 PM
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I am looking to build a sport scale Nike Deacon, but nowhere can I find color data on any of the rounds. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 03-07-2021, 07:55 PM
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Hi, All,
I am looking to build a sport scale Nike Deacon, but nowhere can I find color data on any of the rounds. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!


There don't seem to be any color photos of the original Nike Deacon, but from the B&W photos and text sources (technical reports that list materials), it seems to be an olive drabNike motor, and everything else in shades of bare metal (silver). I've come to find that the light stenciling on the Nike was probably yellow, rather than white, as every color picture I've seen of a Nike booster seems to have yellow lettering when I an make out the color at all.

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Old 03-08-2021, 07:28 AM
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Thank you, Peter,
That helps immensely.
Since this model will likely be in the 'fun scale' category, a ballpark color scheme is completely adequate. I'll post some pics here when it is finished.
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Old 03-08-2021, 02:31 PM
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Thank you, Peter,
That helps immensely.
Since this model will likely be in the 'fun scale' category, a ballpark color scheme is completely adequate. I'll post some pics here when it is finished.


Here is a report on the version of the Nike Deacon I am talking about:

https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bits...e=5&isAllowed=y

The payload and fin cans of both stages are shiny machined metal, the Deacon stage is more of a dull silver. So if you have two brands of silver paint, use them accordingly.

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Old 03-08-2021, 06:36 PM
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Peter,
Thank you for that document download! It's certainly chock full o' rocket science. Being an electronics geek, I am also very interested in the schematics and descriptions of all the on-board payload equipment.
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Here is a report on the version of the Nike Deacon I am talking about:

https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bits...e=5&isAllowed=y

The payload and fin cans of both stages are shiny machined metal, the Deacon stage is more of a dull silver. So if you have two brands of silver paint, use them accordingly.

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There don't seem to be any color photos of the original Nike Deacon, but from the B&W photos and text sources (technical reports that list materials), it seems to be an olive drabNike motor, and everything else in shades of bare metal (silver). I've come to find that the light stenciling on the Nike was probably yellow, rather than white, as every color picture I've seen of a Nike booster seems to have yellow lettering when I an make out the color at all.

Peter Alway

It looks like the Space Age Industries semi-scale Nike-Deacon doesn't help a whole lot with color either, even though it does depict an interesting vintage sport scale rendition. For the catalog and face card illustrations, the rocket images themselves are still mostly black and white.

http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/ca...eage/sai10.html

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It looks like the Space Age Industries semi-scale Nike-Deacon doesn't help a whole lot with color either, even though it does depict an interesting vintage sport scale rendition. For the catalog and face card illustrations, the rocket images themselves are still mostly black and white.

http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/ca...eage/sai10.html


I guess it's semi-scale in the sense that a semi must have run over their scale data?

A fascinating vintage rocket kit for sure, and I'm sure it was fun to build and fly. I just have trouble calling it scale. I think maybe the term "scale-like" might apply.

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I guess it's semi-scale in the sense that a semi must have run over their scale data?

A fascinating vintage rocket kit for sure, and I'm sure it was fun to build and fly. I just have trouble calling it scale. I think maybe the term "scale-like" might apply.

Peter

Hi Peter,

Good one! I agree! Tag Powell of Space Age Industries (SAI) made that semi-scale determination for the SAI Nike-Deacon kit, not me. I do enjoy some of the SAI kits though for fun.

According to the NAR Sport Scale Rules:
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Sport Scale Competition comprises three events open to any model rocket that closely resembles an existing or historical guided missile, rocket vehicle, or space vehicle, that has flown under rocket power. The purpose of this competition is to produce a flying replica of a real rocket vehicle that exhibits maximum craftsmanship in construction, finish, and flight performance. Sport Scale Competition differs from Scale Competition (Rule 50) in that the dimensions of the model are not directly measured.

So I guess that means we have flexibility to eyeball the model and determine if it is close enough to scale? I've not ever competed in a NAR event, so I am not exactly sure what qualifies as Sport Scale and what does not.

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