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I see these "pressure motors" as being very passe' and a poor substitute for real rocket power that BURNS fuel.
They were obsolete when first introduced.
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Bill the NAR did have a Cold Propellant Model Rocket code for several years while vashon and then Estes/Vashon motors were available. What's funny is when the Vashon motors 1st came out, the NAR immediately banned them because of the metal motor material. So Vashon tested/demoed their motors before the FAA and the FAA said, no problems here, and shortly thereafter the NAR did a complete 180 and embraced the cold propellant motors with Safety Code: http://modelrocketbuilding.blogspot...afety-code.html The one I had as a 13-14 yr old was pre-Estes....I had great difficulty getting the electrical ignition system to work. So I usually just pulled the pin while the model set on the launch pad. I would also pull the pin holding the motor in my hand......so to me it was just a play toy...... when pressurized it grabbed the parachute tube pretty tightly. the pressure expanded those spring clips outward and they grabbed pretty good. Charles Green, one of the 2 founders died in 2009. Alan Forsythe, his partner is still kicking at 85+. EDIT removed poor pdf and replaced with much better photos https://airandspace.si.edu/collecti...sm_A19930631000 https://airandspace.si.edu/collecti...sm_A19930655000
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The motor for the "Land Rocket" cars was ALL aluminum, including the Nozzle. It also looks to be 3/4" +/- in diameter.
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Interesting that this turned up on eBay this morning.
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3039788944...AAOSwyJxgirt w If you have some old birds one might could get them back in the air. Earl
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Grab it, before someone "rats it out" that it's R-12 Freon ! Dave F. |
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Oh, one can get R-22 freon in 5, 10, and 20 pound cans on eBay right now. Earl
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But NOT R-12....
One more idiotic ban by the mamby-pambys. This ban was not nearly as bad as EPA Administrator Ruckelhaus banning DDT in 1972 against the advice of the entire EPA scientific panel. DDT was banned by alarmist BUNK/BOGUS science.
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Actually, eBay IS selling R-12 ( I was surprised ) ! https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...ltering&_sop=16 Dave F. |
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All at RIPOFF prices too.
More EPA nonsense. When the little cans got banned, the price per pound tripled. I'd rather ban the EPA.
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In Alaska (and many other states), "Red Flag" days--when hot, dry conditions make flying regular model rockets an exercise in madness (and illegal, too, on such days)--are common. (Even G. Harry Stine's model rocket club once accidentally burnt an 11-acre grass field, when a glowing igniter fragment landed in the dry grass, and within seconds the wind whipped up a fire so large that they had to call the fire department!) Cold Propellant and Coldpower rockets not only *aren't* a fire hazard, but they can even, in a pinch, be used as fire extinguishers (if, say, someone nearby dropped a still-hot cigarette butt).
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