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Old 12-26-2023, 05:05 PM
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Default SpaceX Booster 1058 Destroyed at Sea
Over at the NASASpaceFlight channel they have video of Booster 1058 returning to Port Canaveral and it shows where it has tipped over and has lost the top half of the booster. The Octograbber also appears to be severely damaged. It apparently tipped over in rough seas and wind conditions while returning to port.

Booster 1058 had the most number of flights of any Falcon 9 Booster. It was also the booster that launched the DEMO 2 mission that returned human spaceflight back to NASA and Cape Canaveral.

A video of the drone ship returning to port showing the damaged booster, as well as a recap of the 19 missions that it successfully flew can be found on their YouTube channel at https://youtu.be/IcgW7cOOoM8
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Sad to see that. I was looking forward to watching flight 20. Still....what would we have said, even five years ago, if we'd been told there would be an orbital first stage that put in 19 flights instead of the usual one?
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Old 12-26-2023, 07:26 PM
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IIRC, Booster 1060 is currently at 18 flights, so it may not be that long until we'll see a 20th booster flight.

And the constant reuse of booster, not to mention nearly 100 launches by a SpaceX alone this past year - that is the stuff of SciFi until recently.
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IIRC, Booster 1060 is currently at 18 flights, so it may not be that long until we'll see a 20th booster flight.

And the constant reuse of booster, not to mention nearly 100 launches by a SpaceX alone this past year - that is the stuff of SciFi until recently.


Not only that, it shows how badly NASA has lost the plot in the last 50 years. NASA did incredible stuff on the 1960s, but since then has turned into just another bloated, bureaucratic government organization that puts actual results at the very bottom of the priority list.
NASA dumped tens of billions into the Space Shuttle program with the stated goal of a 10x reduction in the cost of putting stuff into Low Earth Orbit - not only did the Shuttle end up costing so much that the cost of a pound of payload into LOE was nearly identical to the 1960's tech Saturn V (after correcting for inflation), they lost two shuttles and 14 passengers in the process.
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For Christmas my wife got me the book "Failure is Not an Option" by Gene Kranz. About a quarter of the way through the book - they have just finished up the Mercury program and are getting ready for Gemini. But it is amazing what they did with what little they had. They were writing the book as they went along because they had to, there was no book to reference.

So much of what they did then is the basis for what companies like SpaceX are doing now. These new companies have the same 'spirit' as NASA did back in the 60s. They do the job because they want to make a difference - to do what hasn't been done before - both in the 60s and now.

Unfortunately for NASA, its now just another big government bureaucracy. They can still do great things, but they will never be able to do what they did in the 60s.
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For Christmas my wife got me the book "Failure is Not an Option" by Gene Kranz. About a quarter of the way through the book - they have just finished up the Mercury program and are getting ready for Gemini. But it is amazing what they did with what little they had. They were writing the book as they went along because they had to, there was no book to reference.

So much of what they did then is the basis for what companies like SpaceX are doing now. These new companies have the same 'spirit' as NASA did back in the 60s. They do the job because they want to make a difference - to do what hasn't been done before - both in the 60s and now.

Unfortunately for NASA, its now just another big government bureaucracy. They can still do great things, but they will never be able to do what they did in the 60s.


Good book. Loved it. Matter of fact, it might be about time to re-read it.

Ooooh. Ouch. Wow. I knew it had been a while since I originally bought my copy and read it, but I just pulled it off the shelf and checked my purchase date that I always pen right inside the cover of a new book: 6-6-2000. More than 23 years ago!!! Yikes!! Time goes by waaaaaay to quickly!!

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I agree, it's time I re-read Gene Kranz' book.
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It's been so long since I've read it, I forgot I had it. I was looking on eBay and thought I'd better check my bookshelf first. Sure enough, I had it and thumbed through a few pages. I remembered enough to prove to myself I read it years ago. I guess it's time for me to read it again as well.

BTW, eBay has a bunch in acceptable to good condition for less than $5, shipped. There's no excuses for those of you that haven't read it!


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"Failure is not an option" is sitting between "First Man" and "Korolev" on the bookshelf - last read it in 2017. Back to SpaceX, though, I highly recommend "Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX" by Eric Berger.
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Old 12-29-2023, 08:03 AM
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Read that book recently and it is a really good book. Gives a lot of insight into SpaceX and the struggles they went through in the very beginning. Can see a lot of parallels between early NACA/NASA (50s-60s) and SpaceX.

Another good book is "One Giant Leap" by Charles Fishman. This book looks at a lot of the computer technology they were inventing for Apollo.
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