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Old 08-11-2020, 12:30 PM
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Default Recommendations for Glue ABS parts please?

ABS 3D printed parts

I noticed that a lot of kit instructions recommend using CA type glues for gluing ABS to ABS or ABS to Estes type tubing.

What are the pros and cons of using CA type glue for low powered rocketry gluing of these parts?

So what's the best choice for gluing ABS to ABS parts?

How about ABS to Estes Tubing?

Would Beacon Glue be a better choice for ABS to Estes Tubing?

Thank you!
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:39 PM
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ABS to ABS, Methylene Chloride based Plastruct Bondene, Tenax 7R, or Micro-Mark "Same Stuff".
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:46 PM
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ABS to ABS, Methylene Chloride based Plastruct Bondene, Tenax 7R, or Micro-Mark "Same Stuff".

Once you try any of these you will never touch CA or anything from Testors' for ABS again!
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Old 08-11-2020, 01:02 PM
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Plastruct is great stuff. Its what I use exclusively for ABS.
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Old 08-11-2020, 01:02 PM
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ABS to ABS correct?

I have one and I have another from Hobby Lobby that should be equal to Plastruct glue.


What about ABS to Estes tubing?
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ABS to ABS correct?

I have one and I have another from Hobby Lobby that should be equal to Plastruct glue.


What about ABS to Estes tubing?

Some folks use the old Testors' tube glue for that, but a decent medium cure epoxy is probably the best option after preparing the plastic with some sandpaper.
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:19 PM
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Plastruct Plastic Weld is NOT the same as Plastruct Bondene. For ABS, Bondene works at least 100X better than their Plastic Welder. Their Plastic Welder is MEK and is LOUSY for ABS.

Their Plastic Welder in a word SUCKS. It is the same as current crappy Testors liquid cement .
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ABS to ABS, Methylene Chloride based Plastruct Bondene, Tenax 7R, or Micro-Mark "Same Stuff".



Of these, do any of them have tolerable odor levels? We have breathing issues in this house and CA, in tiny amounts is barely tolerable.
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ABS to ABS, Methylene Chloride based Plastruct Bondene, Tenax 7R, or Micro-Mark "Same Stuff".


I have some Ambroid Pro Weld which I *think* is Methylene Chloride based. Has anyone used it for ABS? The label does not list ingredients, but says it for styrene, butyrate, ABS and acrylic.

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Of these, do any of them have tolerable odor levels? We have breathing issues in this house and CA, in tiny amounts is barely tolerable.

They have a fairly light solvent smell, but to be honest, to me it is a pleasant smell. I happen to like the smell of many solvents like acetone, fresh gasoline, good lacquer thinner, classic Hoppes #9, etc. so maybe I'm not a good person to ask about that. CA doesn't smell good to me and the vapor sort of attacks the moist membrane in my nose and eyes.
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