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Old 04-08-2013, 01:53 PM
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I'm wondering if one could substitute Trim Monokote or some type of model airplane covering trim tape in lieu of the original tape... or if in fact it WAS some sort of model airplane hinge tape or something of that sort, color matched with "Cub yellow" or something of that sort...

Any ideas?? Just tossing out ideas myself...
The concern I have for monokote is that it will pull the paint off. It's got way more sticky than ordinary vinyl electrical tape. I know this because I've done it

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Old 04-08-2013, 01:54 PM
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I'm really curious how you got that silver/chrome to turn out so well.
It's trim monokote. But laying down a small piece of that is way easier than doing an Atlas.

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Old 04-08-2013, 02:05 PM
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Ok, went to Home Depot and didn't find what I was looking for there. I did find duct tape that was yellow, but that's not the right material. I also found an assortment of colored of electrical tape that might work in a pinch, but it wasn't 3/4" wide.
I don't think you want ¾" wide tape. I think ½" is closer to the original.

I tried using Scotch brand yellow electrical tape (from Home Depot) but could not satisfactorily cut it down to ½" widths. But I like the color.

I found a variety pack there - probably the same assortment you did. It contained some ½" wide orange-yellow tape that I used instead. I would have preferred a different shade, but the width was my priority.


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Hold it... Is this the vinyl tape that is made from the same stuff as sign making films?
Vinyl signs tend to be way more sticky than vinyl tapes. If you ever have to remove it, you will likely pull up some paint with it. To be clear, the tape was temporary, as I understand it, allowing the user to disassemble the Cineroc. So, if you plan on ever taking yours apart, you don't want it to be too sticky.

Upon further consideration, I suppose, with some heat, monokote or vinyl signs can be removed without damaging the capsule.

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Old 04-08-2013, 02:39 PM
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I don't think you want ¾" wide tape. I think ½" is closer to the original.

I tried using Scotch brand yellow electrical tape (from Home Depot) but could not satisfactorily cut it down to ½" widths. But I like the color.

I found a variety pack there - probably the same assortment you did. It contained some ½" wide orange-yellow tape that I used instead. I would have preferred a different shade, but the width was my priority.


I was basing the 3/4" material on the photograph that Earl posted.


Authentic Cineroc Tape Strips. Photo Courtesy Earl Cagle Jr.

3/8"*2=6/8" (aka 3/4"). Lay a strip down on say, glass or a nonstick surface, then split it down it's length, you end up with the two strips of 3/8".

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Or... This stuff from Amazon.com JVCC V-36 Colored Vinyl Tape: 3/4 in. x 36 yds. (Yellow). That's the closest thing I'm guessing. There are several reviews criticizing its adhesive qualities (low tack) which would make it a lot more likely not pulling off paint.


I'm really beginning to believe that the stuff from Amazon.com is pretty close to the right material.

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Alas, no

I was anguishing over that when I posted earlier. I saw the date on the write-up - from nearly 3 years ago - and felt guilty for not having yet flown it. But I have many birds in that shape - all finished with no belt notches

But having three kids driving keeps me very busy so I'm not falling behind in rocketry due to laziness - just due to other priorities. And I know someday I'll get back to flying more That is, I know I shouldn't feel guilty about neglecting rocketry, but it's not hard to get frustrated when I think about

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Your home page is one of my bookmarks. I get bummed whenever I check in and see that the last update was the nose weight page from 2010.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:35 PM
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Your home page is one of my bookmarks. I get bummed whenever I check in and see that the last update was the nose weight page from 2010.
There are lots of pics up there of my kids playing softball that aren't indexed And some from a class reunion of sorts last fall. And there are a handful of rocket pages, in various stages of completion, that still need to be added to the home page.

Here's some stuff I'm still trying to complete, for example:
http://www.doug79.com/motor-retention/toc-index

But there's still a bunch of stuff to add to it. I really need to write up a page on external motor hooks, for example. One of these days...

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Old 04-08-2013, 04:19 PM
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Default Found image, now to find a parachute...

Ok, I found Gary's Old Cineroc Movies on Youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_90XW6OuMY


Anyone know where I can find a 'chute that looks like the ones in the video? Below are screen grabs from the video.


Cineroc Parachute circa 1970


Cineroc Parachute circa 1975

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Lightbulb Ok, forget the Parachutes...

In a parallel thread , I learned that the 'chutes from the 70's are subject to age related issues, and shouldn't be used for anything other than determining the valuable of an old kit (or ruining it if used for recovery).

I found this image in Earl's thread...


MIB Cineroc being unboxed. Photo Credit Earl Cagle Jr.

I still have some of those old red and black Estes Logo 'chutes (unused, but ventilated) , so I'll use one of them if it's still in good shape.

I can now see on this computer that there is only one white logo/cineroc decal w/the camera.

Still haven't managed to get a 100% answer for the question about one or two (if any) blue logo/cineroc/OMEGA decals included in the RC-8 combo offer. However, since I'm making my rocket based on the '74 catalog photo rocket, rather than a stock, I'm going to add... One, opposite the launch lug. ( Sorry for all the grief Gord.... I'll be back for more decals later...) I'll have a spare for any unfortunate situation in the future.


Still waiting for the Semroc shipment to arrive.
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Question Back to the tape...

Found another assortment of colored electrical tape today, this time at Napa auto parts. The yellow looked about right.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...1734_0361186105

It was a little over $6.00 USD, but I didn't pick it up because I'm still hoping for an answer on the stuff from Amazon.com

JVCC V-36 Colored Vinyl Tape: 3/4 in. x 36 yds. (Yellow).

Oh, and a look at Harbor freight turned up this assortment of tape for only ~$2.00 USD

http://www.harborfreight.com/colore...pack-66462.html

I think I've found my tape, but I'm still willing to hear from more experienced people.


Thanks for looking! (still no rocket in hand )
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Found another assortment of colored electrical tape today, this time at Napa auto parts. The yellow looked about right.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...1734_0361186105

It was a little over $6.00 USD, but I didn't pick it up because I'm still hoping for an answer on the stuff from Amazon.com

JVCC V-36 Colored Vinyl Tape: 3/4 in. x 36 yds. (Yellow).

Oh, and a look at Harbor freight turned up this assortment of tape for only ~$2.00 USD

http://www.harborfreight.com/colore...pack-66462.html

I think I've found my tape, but I'm still willing to hear from more experienced people.


Thanks for looking! (still no rocket in hand )
Jim

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I told you about the Harbor Freight tape assortment.
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