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Old 10-23-2015, 09:46 PM
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I remember Meteor!

We watched that dang flick on the sub so many times we could reenact the whole thing with sock puppets.

I haven't seen it as a civilian--not even once. Go figure.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:18 AM
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Bill Stine built the models used in the movie.
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How did it happen that Bill built those models?
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Old 10-24-2015, 04:12 PM
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I remember Meteor!

We watched that dang flick on the sub so many times we could reenact the whole thing with sock puppets.

I haven't seen it as a civilian--not even once. Go figure.


"Why don't you stick a broom up my @ss... I could sweep the carpet on the way out the door!"

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One of the more memorable quotes from the movie... hearing the mustachioed Sean Connery post-James Bond (a few years after "Diamonds are Forever", his last Bond flick after leaving "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" to newcomer and one-time-wonder George Lazenby, who's post-film antics assured he would be replaced... eventually by Roger Moore) was a bit surreal...

Enjoyed Brian Keith's performance... he played the Russian Dr. Dubov very convincingly...

"Fook the Dodgers!!!" (tosses back vodka).

Hehehe... Later! OL JR

PS. appreciated your "snobatorium" comment in your picture thread... good Caddyshack reference...

Nice pile of bricks BTW...
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Old 10-24-2015, 04:37 PM
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Thanks.

There was even a Meteor! pinball machine. Don't remember if it was made by Bally or Midway.

Connery returned to play 007 one last time in "Never Say Never Again" in '83.
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:17 PM
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From looking at that Soviet model, you'd *almost* suspect that some of the LTV Scout plastic parts showed up on that....probably not likely, but the NC and two transitions are kind of suspicious.

If not from that, what other model rocket parts do you think were used? Figure there'd have to be some or such....
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:25 PM
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Those 'movie missiles' definitly look like they were kit-bashed LTV Scout kits.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:43 PM
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Bob,

How did it happen that Bill built those models?


Bill told the story to Scott Branche (Rokitflite) and myself back when the three of us were working at Enertek.

That was nearly thirty years ago!

All I can remember about the story is that Bill had scratch-built some really nice Star Wars models right after that movie came out and it got the attention of some folks.

Maybe Scott can fill in the story.
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Thanks.

There was even a Meteor! pinball machine. Don't remember if it was made by Bally or Midway.

Connery returned to play 007 one last time in "Never Say Never Again" in '83.


Yeah, but that wasn't a "real" Bond film... That was a ripoff because one of the writers of the original "Thunderball" film in 1965 (IIRC) ended up in a big lawsuit with Eon Productions and Cubby Broccoli over the story rights. Eventually he won the rights to "Thunderball" and could make a remake after a certain amount of time. The result was "Never Say Never Again". (This title was in fact a ripoff of Connery's comments after his last performance as Bond in "Diamonds are Forever" after he was wooed back by Cubby Broccoli after they decided to torpedo George Lazenby due to his shenanigans after the production of "On Her Majesty's Secret Service". Connery did "Diamonds are Forever" but reportedly told Broccoli "never again". That's when Bond became Roger Moore for the next film, "Live and Let Die".

"Never Say Never Again" was basically just a rewrite of "Thunderball". The stories were practically identical. Instead of a British Vulcan bomber being hijacked by a turned NATO exchange officer working for SPECTRE, who flew it to a water landing in shallow water near Nassau, where the bombs were then stolen by high-ranking SPECTRE agent Emilio Largo, aboard his yacht the "Disco Volante", whom Bond eventually tracks down with the help of Felix Leiter and Largo's girlfriend "Domino", culminating in a huge underwater battle off Miami as Largo plans to detonate the bomb on a shipwreck just offshore, destroying the city. Largo ends up in a pitched battle with the US Navy and eventually is killed by Domino for his murder of her brother (the air officer that hijacked the bomber). "Never Say Never Again" basically parroted the entire film, with a few additions and changes, none of which made much difference to the story or premise. Instead of the opening scene with Bond fighting a SPECTRE agent faking his own death (and attending his own funeral in drag impersonating a woman) and escaping using a jetpack to fly out of the heavily guarded castle, an aging Bond participates in some "exercises" to test the "Double-O's", where he has to penetrate a dumpy jungle lair of some kidnappers and free some girl, who promptly stabs him as he cuts her free... Then, at the insistence of his crotchety commander, he's ordered to "Shrublands", a recuperation and health clinic, to "get his edge back" and "purge all those toxins from you" (from too much red wine and red meat and too many dry martinis). There he becomes involved in some intrigue as Fatima Blush, impersonating a nurse, is preparing a turned Air Force officer to steal nuclear weapons for SPECTRE. In "Thunderball", Bond similarly became involved in some intrigue as a SPECTRE agent was preparing another "exchange officer" to impersonate a French officer and steal a Vulcan bomber carrying nuclear weapons for SPECTRE. Bond is recalled to duty, after the nuclear weapons are stolen-- in "Never Say Never Again", by the turned Air Force officer using a fake eye to impersonate the President and get some cruise missiles armed with real W-80 nuclear warheads instead of dummies during preparations for a test flight. The missiles are hijacked in midair after launch by SPECTRE and retrieved from divers from the "Flying Saucer" ("Disco Volante" is "flying saucer" in Italian) and Largo. The Air Force officer is killed by Fatima Blush after the sabotage that put the real warheads in the missiles, rather than by Largo as he was trapped in the hijacked bomber on the bottom of the ocean in "Thunderball". Bond traces Domino, the officer's sister, to Largo and the "Flying Saucer", which is presently in Nassau, just as in "Thunderball". Bond gets to enjoy some "water sports" in Nassau (mostly with Domino in Thunderball, and with Fatima Blush in Never Say Never Again), before nearly being killed a few times. NSNA departs from the original Thunderball here by the diversion of the Flying Saucer to the south of France, where Bond teams up with Leiter and a French operative, who is later killed by Fatima Blush (similar to Bond teaming up with Leiter and a British station female operative in the Bahamas, who ends up taking a suicide pill after her capture by Spectre, at the hands of Largo's #1 henchman Vargas). Bond later exacts retribution by killing Fatima Blush (who killed the girl operative in NSNA), just as he used Fiona Volpe, Largo's second henchwoman, as a human shield during an assassination attempt, resulting in her being killed by the SPECTRE bullet intended for him. After some more intrigue, Domino ends up in Largo's clutches, as he realizes she's been helping (and co-opted) by Bond... in Thunderball, Domino ends up tied up aboard the Disco Volante and tortured by Largo, in NSNA, Domino is tied up and set up to be sold into sex slavery in North Africa at Largo's instruction. Bond rescues Domino in both films, but at different times. In NSNA, Bond escapes with Domino to a US submarine, and then figures out where Largo has taken the final bomb (after Largo foolishly told Bond the first one was hidden "under the President's feet in Washington DC) and a huge underwater battle takes place to stop him, with Bond and Leiter dropping into a well to access the underground aquifer Largo is using to transport the bomb into the Middle Eastern oil fields. (This mirrors the rescue of Bond from an opening in an underwater cave he became trapped in after Largo retrieved the bomb from underwater storage in Thunderball. In the final battle, Largo ends up being killed by Domino, in both films she shoots him with a spear gun, just as he's about to kill Bond.

Basically Never Say Never Again was a carbon-copy of Thunderball... Eon Productions had worries that it would be serious competition for their version of Bond, that came out at the same time, Octopussy... While the writers had won the lawsuit and got their remake, nothing really came of it-- their retread of Thunderball was successful, but didn't lead to them "taking over the franchise" from Cubby Broccoli and Eon Productions as they'd hoped. It was a one-off that basically led nowhere. Eventually the film distribution rights to Never Say Never Again were obtained by the same company that distributes the rest of the Bond films, in fact.

Anyway, that's the backstory on that...

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Old 10-25-2015, 12:11 AM
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:50 AM
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back when the three of us were working at Enertek.
That was an unfortunate train wreck. I declined to join because it was all about Gary not Lee, and look, after the BK Gary got the assets. Surprise!

If it was about Lee I would certainly have joined. I would have been free to continue my non-competitive commercial motor manufacturing and Enertek would still be alive today. The failure of Enertek was ultimately about mis-directed investments at the dawn of the internet.

Heck, that's where the Mantis launch pad came from!

I believe when it was released the Initiator kit was the highest specific mass kit of its size ever. A boat anchor kit.

Enertek motors, had we ever seen them were to be 30mm+, so would fit ONLY Enertek kits, substantially reducing their addressable market, particularly in the early months or years of release.

They were trying to be Apple in 1986 not IBM in 1984-94. For historical perspective, the iMac on Jobs's return, at least had two USB ports and an Ethernet port for compatibility. I ran my Mac+ in ram disc mode at all times with an external SCSI drive to maximize its superior processor capabilities. Floppies are for sneaker net.

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