http://www.estesrockets.com/coming-soon/002157-saturn-v

Recommended Engine: D12-3 (first flight) E12-4, E30-4

$79.99

http://www.estesrockets.com/coming-...6-estes-shuttle

Recommended Engines: D12-3 (First Flight), *E12-4

$49.95

That is not a re-release, please edit the post title or you might be responsible for some ER visits.

I am surprised they didn't do an actual re-release of the shuttle. Posible the vacuform molds are in bad shape. I still have one mint in bag.

What? No B-14's?

What's it going to take?



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Ugh. Too small, never cared for it. Never built one. But I did WANT to have shuttle models, very much. So, I made my own. This one was made in 1979, 1/110 scale with built-up balsa orbiter, 3" ET, and BT-55 SRB's. That was a reasonable enough size, boosted well on a D12, and had a nice glide



Too many of those old Estes shuttles I saw boosted badly, and rarely did the orbiter glide.

It would be so much better if Estes, or someone, came out with a new scale model of the Shuttle, bigger than the old one, and 1/110 would be a pretty nice size for a lot of people (1/72 is nice in theory but so big and heavy it needs a G or more, badly limiting the market compared to a D or E sized model).

Indeed at one time I was working on a prototype for a 1/110 kit I was going to produce, but the kit didn't happen. Would have used the Guillow's foam orbiter. Info here:

http://www.rocketryforum.com/showth...l-is-a-success!

- George Gassaway

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Welll, since the kit didn't pan out, how about sharing the plan. I have two of the Guillow's shuttles and was thinking Buran/Energya. But yours looks fun, too. Is the engine mount centered in the ET as it appears or is it off-center like the Estes kit?

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I have to say, I saw the RC shuttle George built from scratch fly a couple of times and it still ranks in my top 3 over all flights and I've been flying and watching since 1968. I think it's the one he's holding in the photo.

George, if you still have a video of it you should post it.

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The new Estes "shuttle-oid" looks interesting. Is the glider balsa or foam?

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Mark B. - The TRF Link I posted has the plans for the 1/110 prototype.


The pic with me in the previous message is with the 1/110 kit prototype.

The R/C models, the one with the ET & SRB’s was 1/72. Here is a link to my website that has a lot of info the models I did thru the years, mainly focusing on the 1/72 model that took 22 years of off-and-on work (mostly off) from “dream-visioning” (1977) to realization (1999 NARAM winning model). I didn't have even 25% of the skills in 1977 to pull off a model like that. I wasn't really into building scale (loved the shuttle though), and thru the years after learned the various things that helped make it happen (Vac-forming, casting, R/C models, R/C piloting, electronics, and creative designing). Even at that I ended up farming out the flight computer, Jay Marsh modified a version of a flight computer he made for his 3-stage Saturn-IB.

http://georgesrockets.com/GRP/Scale...shuttlehome.htm

A video of a boilerplate test flight, with automated SRB sep, R/C Orbiter sep, ET onboard computer ejection, orbiter firing an A3 to simulate “OMS” burn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQbt2VoIuZo

I also did one piggyback boosted by G12 power, at 1/60 scale. it had a really nice glide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_cxNTnIYsA

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The original 1284 Estes shuttle was easy to make glide.
It needed about twice the lead weight in the nose that Estes reccommended.
Then the elevons needed to be set to about 1/3 to 1/2 full deflection.
It would glide actually better than an Orbital Transport glider, which also needed extra nose weight and about half-deflection of the plan specified elevon angle.
The 1284 Shuttle flies well on C5-3 Estes engines, old Cox D8-3 engines, and Aerotech D10/D13 18mm composites. Never tried the D21/D24 in it.
The 1284 Shuttle flies WORSE than a Mars Lander on the lousy C6-3. It is way to draggy and heavy for that motor...halfway through the burn it arcs over and goes into "cruise missile" mode for at least 50 feet of the burn. There is NOTHING a C6-3 does that a C5-3 does not do BETTER.
The original shuttle should have been 24mm. It would fly great on C11, D12, and E12 engines.

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