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Old 07-29-2019, 11:24 AM
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I wondered if that was part of the pow-wow that went on at the field last year between Ellis, Bill, Mike, Dane, Hans, and Gary in the tent next to the Estes tent

I might have gotten some good video of that without any content being captured.
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:52 PM
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Now that we have the F67, what about the F52, E24 and of course the G76 and H111??

Licensing the name in no way changes ownership. They also have a motor distribution agreement so the liability issues re simplified.

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Old 07-29-2019, 08:28 PM
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I'm kinda 'meh' on the F52...it was barely an F.
The 29mm E24, F67, G76, and H111 would be awesome too... especially if the H111 is under the LMR propellant weight limit so one could legally fly it without a waiver.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:50 AM
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Gary forgot to add that the D10 and D21 are no more. Something about casing supply issues.


Well thatís not good news. If either Gary or Dane are still around today I will ask about that.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:59 AM
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eRockets/Semroc, Tim VanMilligan/Apogee, Peter Alway, NCR, BMS, Newway weíre all there.

Semroc: updates to existing products - new tabbed laser cut fins/wings and decals for the Orbital Transport and additions to the MMX line.

They also showed a model, the name has escaped me, that had a boat tail version of a screw on motor retainer, which is interchangeable with one that is shaped like a big deLaval nozzle. It also had a screw-together joint in the middle. I think Iíve seen the joiner on eRockets already. I believe these parts are 3D printed.

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Apogee: working on a staging timer and still working on the GPS guided rogollo chute system.

Peter Alway: next edition of Rockets of the World still several years away.

Peter was showing recently released books - the WWII rockets book and the V-2 painting guide. But yes, he said a new edition of RoTW is still some time away.

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NCR: some kit updates and new laser cut construction tools/stands.

BMS: updates to the big School Rocket, including a 29mm motor version and add-on payload bays.

Newway: more square tube versions of old favorites, MMX versions of current Newway designs and a down scale of a really big square tube HPR rocket I wasnít familiar with.

The New Way Spacemodels downscale was the Spirit of Higgs Farm. A new release here at NARAM is the Flat Boy, which is about the size of the Estes Mini Fat Boy but with an 18mm motor mount. The nose cone is 3D printed.

The MicroMax models (there are several) are also almost entirely 3D printed.

Rick showed two that are not yet released. First was Big Bessie (a square Big Bertha, but in a black/white cow motif). This model uses the same nose cone as Flat Boy (just as their Estes counterparts do). And there was the Saturn-4, which is a square Saturn V about the size of the Dr. Zooch Saturn V. The fins/nozzle fairings as well as the entire upper section (S-IVB on up) is 3D printed.

And James Duffy opened the forum with his own new product - a DVD about the Bell X-1 (spacemonkey models and rocket.aero)
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Dang it! I was late getting there and missed the X-1 announcement - thanks for the info, the X-1 is a favorite of mine.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:18 PM
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I figured some arrangement had to be made, particularly in light of one of Dr. Langfordís comments about Estes Industries being a little more careful about intellectual property in the future or something like that. This came after a comment about Estes bringing out new designs ďso that Semroc had something new to make in 20 yearsĒ. But it that was clearly in a lighthearted tone, so I donít think that we can read any significance into it with respect to older designs currently reproduced by Semroc/eRockets. Or thatís how I read that bit, anyway.


There was no 'arrangement' concerning the Enerjet trade name.

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Enerjets were sold in the rest stops of the New Jersey Turnpike back in the 1970's.


And they are still available today!!!


http://www.enerjets.com/


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There was no 'arrangement' concerning the Enerjet trade name.

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Old 07-31-2019, 12:34 PM
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On other-than-Enerjet topics....Gary showed a 4 inch diameter upscale Initiator as well. I think he said 38mm motor mount.




I approve.

The Mega Initiator has a 54mm motor mount.
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Enerjets were sold in the rest stops of the New Jersey Turnpike back in the 1970's.


And they are still available today!!!


http://www.enerjets.com/


Thatís a must have for the next launch!
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