Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Go Back   Ye Olde Rocket Forum > Work Bench > Vendors
User Name
Password
Auctions Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 04-07-2020, 07:49 AM
GuyNoir's Avatar
GuyNoir GuyNoir is offline
NAR # 19250 - Life Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Woodstock, IL
Posts: 493
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB.
Give us facts.


I'm betting the under.
__________________
A dark night in a city that knows how to keep its secrets. But high above the quiet streets on the 12th floor of the Acme Building, one man is still trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions. Guy Noir, Private Eye.

Fox Valley Rocketeers: http://www.foxvalleyrocketeers.org
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-07-2020, 11:07 AM
Rocketflyer's Avatar
Rocketflyer Rocketflyer is offline
Member in Good Standing!
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine
So I was able to achieve a truly DOT/ATF/NAR/NFPA exempt propellant. You can buy a candle. You can buy a rocket motor.

The issue is the clubs are involved in arbitrary rulemaking and that exemption from them makes them nervous (irrationally, because we always need clubs). So my question is simple from the perspective of THIS audience. Are you even willing to buy exempt product or does it violate your religion?

There's always Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

Just Jerry



Nothing like a BS comment, Jerry. I'm aware of what you have accomplished, Jerry, but that was years and years ago. This is Now. I really dislike those kinds of statements when all you are doing is looking to do is tease. Money where mouth is. As for fixating on HPR and HPR+; No, does not work well here in So.NJ. You would do well with LPR and MPR motors, but that's not you, is it? You could do so much, motor wise, Jerry, but talk is cheap. Stop talking, it's getting irritating.
__________________
Enjoy life, it has an expiration date.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-07-2020, 11:16 AM
astronwolf's Avatar
astronwolf astronwolf is offline
Lost his Drifter
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 1,277
Default

Shakes head.... sad...
__________________
-Wolfram v. Kiparski
NAR 28643 - TRA 15520
MTMA Section #606 President
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-07-2020, 11:24 AM
Jerry Irvine's Avatar
Jerry Irvine Jerry Irvine is offline
Freeform rocketry advocate.
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Claremont, CA "The intellectual capitol of the world."-WSJ
Posts: 3,780
Default

My money is against Bundick. Always has been. Better? No. Cheaper? Not at first at least, but potentially yes after 2-3 years. Fits same sizes? Yes. Show me? We are not there yet for this audience for the very reason I have heard both skeptical and accusing comments already.

I have a simple question that has not been answered. I have answered almost all questions posed of me.

Respond to the original post if you want to be helpful.

Snipe if you don't.

Just Jerry
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-07-2020, 02:06 PM
5x7's Avatar
5x7 5x7 is offline
Sometimes collector
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,786
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine
My money is against Bundick. Always has been. Better? No. Cheaper? Not at first at least, but potentially yes after 2-3 years. Fits same sizes? Yes. Show me? We are not there yet for this audience for the very reason I have heard both skeptical and accusing comments already.

I have a simple question that has not been answered. I have answered almost all questions posed of me.

Respond to the original post if you want to be helpful.

Snipe if you don't.

Just Jerry


I did, answer it.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-07-2020, 02:09 PM
5x7's Avatar
5x7 5x7 is offline
Sometimes collector
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,786
Default

Post the MSDS also.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-07-2020, 02:45 PM
Jerry Irvine's Avatar
Jerry Irvine Jerry Irvine is offline
Freeform rocketry advocate.
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Claremont, CA "The intellectual capitol of the world."-WSJ
Posts: 3,780
Default

I feel like I am not getting responses to my original conditional question. Lot's of questions about the conditions. So I hereby withdraw the question and adjust the marketing model. Thanks.

Two non-sensical comments did it for me. End users do not need or get an MSDS. A shipper or warehouse might, but almost never for an exempt product. A DOT exempt product does not have a DOT approval.

Just Jerry

Last edited by Jerry Irvine : 04-07-2020 at 05:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-07-2020, 08:20 PM
Earl's Avatar
Earl Earl is offline
Apollo Nut
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine
So I was able to achieve a truly DOT/ATF/NAR/NFPA exempt propellant. You can buy a candle. You can buy a rocket motor.

The issue is the clubs are involved in arbitrary rulemaking and that exemption from them makes them nervous (irrationally, because we always need clubs). So my question is simple from the perspective of THIS audience. Are you even willing to buy exempt product or does it violate your religion?

There's always Home Depot and Wal-Mart.

Just Jerry


It seems what might be being said is that “Yes, we may be willing to buy exempt product” if, IF we knew just a little more about said ‘exempt product’. As it stands right now, I don’t think we have enough info about it to make an informed decision.

But I think you have us at least interested to learn more, IF you are willing to share more. If not, then yes, I guess we can’t go any further.

Earl
__________________
Earl L. Cagle, Jr.
NAR# 29523
TRA# 962
SAM# 73
Owner/Producer
Point 39 Productions

Rocket-Brained Since 1970
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-07-2020, 08:44 PM
Jerry Irvine's Avatar
Jerry Irvine Jerry Irvine is offline
Freeform rocketry advocate.
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Claremont, CA "The intellectual capitol of the world."-WSJ
Posts: 3,780
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl
It seems what might be being said is that “Yes, we may be willing to buy exempt product” if, IF we knew just a little more about said ‘exempt product’. As it stands right now, I don’t think we have enough info about it to make an informed decision.But I think you have us at least interested to learn more, IF you are willing to share more. If not, then yes, I guess we can’t go any further.Earl
That is what you are saying. Your collegues are not on the same page.

The word exempt has a literal meaning like flammable newspaper or hay or something.

Besides I am not seeking opinions on IF it is exempt. It is. I am seeking opinions on whether it is compatible with the 5000 person NAR market. It is not.

JJ
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-07-2020, 09:04 PM
astronwolf's Avatar
astronwolf astronwolf is offline
Lost his Drifter
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 1,277
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine
I feel like I am not getting responses to my original conditional question.


OK. Your original question was:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine
So my question is simple from the perspective of THIS audience. Are you even willing to buy exempt product or does it violate your religion?


So you want to talk about nonsensical posts. Let me take a WAG as to what you are talking about. My religion does not prohibit me from buying motors that are exempt from hazmat fees. So the either this or that doesn't make much sense. OK?

Or are you referring to selling uncertified motors but are too, whatever, to just come right out and ask?
__________________
-Wolfram v. Kiparski
NAR 28643 - TRA 15520
MTMA Section #606 President
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:41 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe © 1998-2024