Pretty much every indoor facility that deals with explosive materials is designed that way both by code, and by common sense.

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Martin Bowitz. SCRA 430 president.

He was on the jury. They did not dismiss him even though he was familiar with and launched model rockets.

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-Fred Shecter NAR 20117 (L2)
Southern California Rocket Association, NAR Section 430

Here is an image of the typical Cox Model Rocket ad that they ran throughout 1973 and in the January 1974 issue of Model Rocketeer magazine.

Kind regards,
Jeff Jenkins
aka: Faithwalker
NAR #46879 SR

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His name is familiar from magazines in the past . Yes it would be interesting to hear his memories of the trial issues.


my point to others about the blow away roofs and doors was even with that designed in from the start, the actual procedures and processes used under those blow away roofs and doors was just plain stupidity. Take a look at the layout of the the Estes plant, buildings separated from one another and their plant design dates from the early 60's and they got it right. The motor plant should have never been built where it was built and how it was built in the first place. And the CA Fire Marshall who ever it was back then didn't do his job either. If I had been a fire official inspecting that place I would have said, hell no...... but as we all know if you lived back in 1971, things were pretty lax across the board as far as regulations went.

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Not excusing Cox, but worth remembering that all the major motor manufacturers (Estes, Quest, Cox, Aerotech, and Cesaroni ) have all had major accidents.

Making motors is dangerous.

Agree with Steve above.
Motor making, be it BP or APCP Composite (or manufacturing anything else) is dangerous.
Processes can be made SafER, but not totally without risk.
OVER-Regulated NANNY STATE is not the answer though.

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Yes, there is such a thing as NORMAL, if you have to ask what is "NORMAL" , you probably aren't !
Failure may not be an OPTION, but it is ALWAYS a POSSIBILITY.
ALL systems are GO for MAYHEM, CHAOS, TURMOIL, FIASCOS, and HAVOC !

That's interesting how the Cox engines were made indoors, inside the main factory building.
But as far a regulations go, California was very strict about fireworks and the ability to purchase model rocket engines.
The Assistant Fire Marshal of the State came by and inspected the family ranch property before giving me a permit to purchase engines.

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Old/New NAR # 19086 SR

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what major accident did Estes have? I must have missed or forgotten that one. I'm aware of COX,Quest,Aerotech & Cesaroni

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Not counting the Estes Park distillery fire/explosion?


from https://www.encyclopedia.com/books/...uri-corporation

Trial by Fire in 1999
In March 1999, a controlled burn on neighboring property spread to the Estes plant, causing nearly $1 million worth of damage. A couple tons of chemicals, five tons of clay, and 542,000 rocket engines were lost. A total of 500 people were evacuated from the surrounding area to avoid possible exposure to hazardous chemicals. A dozen Estes employees refused to leave, fighting sparks and brush fires with shovels, reported the Pueblo Chieftain.

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who was doing the controlled burn on the neighboring property? Was this a 3rd party burn that spread to the Estes plant? Or was Estes doing the controlled burn?

I wonder if Estes and NEPT ever kissed and made up after that lawsuit?

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