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What if the contestant could testify that he/she originated the CAD model that was used for the 3D print? Isn't that a modeling skill that should be considered?
And then the question of buying printed parts rather than printing them yourself. A 3D printer is a modeling tool that also requires learning a skill to be used effectively, just like a lathe. No idea how to consider such things, just spitballing.
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Sigh . . .
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Hi Dave; Makes no difference whether it's measured or not. Plenty of accurate models have been produced over the years in Precision Scale events long before 3D printing came along. Again, it's a craftsmanship event. If your point is that 3D printing might make it easier to produce accurate parts, then I would agree, and if that makes it easier for folks to participate in the event, I say Super! The more models the better. But the finished model still has to do well in the other judging categories to reach a top place.
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Is it fair to have to compete against people using
* fin jigs * piston launchers * launch towers * R/C Bill
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Those are all good questions, but they are not likely to make any kind of appreciable dent in the scoring. To the extent they could have an effect it would be captured in Degree of Difficulty. Right now, that category is only worth 100 points in Sport Scale judging. Finish, Colors and Markings is worth 200 points, and Craftsmanship is worth 300 points. Usually, the top models tend to be determined by the results in those latter categories.
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I look forward to finding out whether Dave Fitch's Scale Model entry for NARAM-64 uses 3D printed parts or not.
I'll guess no 3D printed parts. And also no parts of any kind whatsoever. (as in talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk-talk.......... and no action). FWIW - Tom Beach's Litle Joe-II model at NARAM-63 was AWESOME. It was almost all 3D printed (Except for the riveted skins on the fins, rivet "bumps" punched into thin plastic , then an RTV mold made and the skins cast). And he even used an all 3D printed launch pad for a display stand. He created all of the 3D files for it himself. Everyone was blown away by his incredible model. Nobody was whining. Here's a video of it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLdBrP_Scg Also, he (and I) created the Scale Data Drawings that were used for it. May/June and July-August 1992 issues of American Spacemodeling magazine (Now Sport Rocketry, which Tom has been the editor for for over 25 years).
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Where has 3D printing impacted craftsmanship events to the point of their use being "unfair." Where is the evidence?
There is none.
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I think Dave is speculating there could be unfairness. But as I've tried to explain, perhaps not that clearly, is that under the present scoring system I don't think 3D printing has that much of an impact.
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Hi George; I agree - Tom's model was indeed fantastic. And he scored first in Static, not because of the 3D printing, but because he had the best finish, most accurate markings, and the best craftsmanship.
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Speculating... So let's all join the witch hunt to root out "unfairness." I'd rather be rooting out the $ht posters.
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