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09-28-2005, 01:02 AM
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Ahhh, I can see clearly now... (Finger wigglin' in my ear... Someone was singin'...) I missed it earlier. It's showing in RED, so that means no one has it online... Quote:
I can vouch for what Bill said: He IS a character. But like the fifth book in the Hitchhiker's trilogy, he's Mostly Harmless...  (Said as the last strap on the white jacket was being buckled down...)   How's yer medication holdin' out, there, Bill?
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09-28-2005, 01:38 AM
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Almost sold out!  That last batch should have been enough to hold you a while.
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09-28-2005, 01:51 AM
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I wonder how I ever missed THAT model? Easy enough to build, though... BT-50, full 18"... PNC-50Y... 6 - BT-50J tube fins... BT-20J motor tube... 2 - CR-2050 rings... 1 CR-520 ring... 1 EH-2 engine hook... 12" parachute... Really guessing here -- 3/32" balsa sheet for the fins, 1/2" wide, two 90-degree right-angles for the tip, 45-degree cut on the root, leading edge looks to be about 1.75"... Add a 24" length of Kevlar and 24"-36" of elastic shock chord... Decal looks simple enough to do on clear paper... I might have to add one of these to the collection...
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09-28-2005, 08:00 AM
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[QUOTE=CPMcGraw]I wonder how I ever missed THAT model?
Easy enough to build, though... BT-50, full 18"... PNC-50Y... 6 - BT-50J tube fins... BT-20J motor tube... 2 - CR-2050 rings... 1 CR-520 ring... 1 EH-2 engine hook... 12" parachute... Really guessing here -- 3/32" balsa sheet for the fins, 1/2" wide, two 90-degree right-angles for the tip, 45-degree cut on the root, leading edge looks to be about 1.75"... QUOTE] They Look like either Yankee or Zinger fins to me ( although either of those is not diecut, so maybe not , others ? ,likely to have come from a past kit, as Estes was known to do for thier 3fnc or 4fnc kits . which brings me to a mini-project of mine, which was making a list of known reused fin patterns / sheets, and reissued designs. I knwo the 'master list' on YORS has some notes/ comments on some of these, such as the Comet being the old Vigilante, etc. here's what I have so far, if anyone can comment,update,add to, let me know. could prove interesting / helpful to know what was reused, in case of 'missing fin patterns' etc. ~ AL ( list follows ) Centuri Vector V / Viking (and Estes Viking) Estes Apache 2 / Centuri Tiger Streak (same kit) Estes Polaris - Sky Raider Estes Asteroid Explorer - Spartan mini brute 1991 Blue Streak - 1938 Laser Estes Reliant - Jammin' Mini Mean Machine - 1936 Sunbird Sam 4 (1357)- 2 diecut sheets -(Gamma,Eclipse) Odyssey (1289) - F61 (1358) Maxi Icarus (1331) - Mach 2 (1379) Comet (1368) - Vigilante (1278) Cyclone (1907) - Marauder (1922) Yankee Clipper - Cougar (1923) Sizzler (1906) - Defender (1924) ? Estes Satellite Interceptor - Centuri Spacemaster ? Estes X20 - Centuri Python Fighter ?? Estes Missile Toe goonie bird / Scrambler 2 ?? Blue Bird Zero / 1979 clipper obvious reissues Estes Optima / Shadow Broadsword / Super Big Bertha Scorpion / Mongoose (2 stage) cold pwr Marauder / Polaris cold pwr Yankee 5 / Gamma cold pwr Shark / Stilletto 1991 Zipper / 1991 Blue Streak Magician / Meteor Renegade / Long John Silver Lumina / Jammin
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09-28-2005, 09:14 AM
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Ya, Bill sure is a character alright!
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09-28-2005, 10:05 AM
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We've tossed this thread around a time or two in the past... Here's some updates for your list... #1991 Blue Star was also called Zipper in its earlier release. #1368 Comet - #1278 Vigilante - #1955 Ranger #1295 Mean Machine - #2029 Raven #1276 Antares - #1294 Cobra 1500
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09-28-2005, 12:08 PM
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They look similar, but don't quite match up. You can see the discussion here; http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/show...ighlight=python Later, EV
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09-28-2005, 01:13 PM
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Clipper -- Blue Bird Zero
Here's a quickie profile of the Clipper using the BBZ fins. For those of you who actually built the kit, does this profile look like what you remember the kit to look like? I had never thought about this possibility, probably because the BBZ uses the fins differently...
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09-28-2005, 01:39 PM
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As is with a lot of kits, they just look similar but are not the same. The Blue Bird Zero is a BT-55 rocket and the clipper is a BT-50 rocket, If you look closely they have different nose cones of course and the fins are similar put not the same.
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09-28-2005, 02:14 PM
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The Centuri Victor V and the Estes Viking use the same fins put that’s all that is similar with the two rockets.
The Blue Star and the Laser are not exactly the same the fins are different the 1991 Blue Star are made with 3/32” Balsa and the 1938 Laser is made with 1/16” Balsa. They also seam a little different in length.
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I'm thinking Day-Glo paints when the time comes...... 
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