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Old 05-20-2011, 12:45 PM
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Movie Intro ... I can't get to youtube from work so would someone post the youtube link of the TV show, or I will just do it later when I get home:

http://www.schooltube.com/video/f0e...-TV-Movie-Intro
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You can fly them on C6's, but you gotta watch those C5's



Here, under the thrust of the C5, the drag forces collapsed the sides of the airframe into the motor exhaust. Not pretty. This one was really howling...'til it caught on fire

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Hmmm...a semi-monocoque structure (the existing "dihedraled" card stock cone stiffened and strengthened with balsa or carbon fiber formers and stringers glued to the inside of the card stock) might enable C5-3 or even composite D10 powered flights. To save weight, the round-cornered fiber triangular cone "dihedral" former plate could be replaced with a narrow former "ring" of the same outer perimeter shape, which could be attached to the motor mount tube using a few radial tie beams.
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Doug,

Looks you had a 'blow out in vapor 3'! ?
I think it was "damper 3" (the yaw or roll damper, I believe). The pilot for that flight, Bruce Peterson (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Peterson ), was having problems with the M2-F2's roll response during the landing approach, and that combined with a pilot-distracting maneuver to avoid colliding with a rescue helicopter in or near his descent path contributed to the crash. The M2-F2's landing gear weren't fully extended when the lifting body touched down, which caused the high-speed rollover crash that very nearly killed Peterson outright and later resulted (via a secondary infection) in his loss of sight in one eye. Amazingly, he recovered and continued his research flying work for NASA (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_M2-F2 ).

I've always thought that the Northrop M2-F3 (the modified, rebuilt M2-F2 with a third vertical stabilizer, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_M2-F3 ), the Northrop HL-10 (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_HL-10 ), the Martin Marietta X-24A (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Marietta_X-24A ) and X-24B (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Marietta_X-24B ), and the Martin Marietta X-23A/SV-5D PRIME (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_X-23_PRIME ) would make interesting scale boost-gliders. Models of them could be made of vacu-formed styrene or styrene foam (which could be covered with Kevlar "veil" and epoxy to make the surface more durable) with sheet balsa vertical stabilizers. They could "hitch-hike" on longer and larger existing rockets as parasite boost-gliders.
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Yes it was 'Damper 3'! Good catch!


One of the greatest TV shows ever made!

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Yes it was 'Damper 3'! Good catch!
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One of the greatest TV shows ever made!

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Indeed! They used actual bionic arms (not having super-human strength, of course) for the "bionics checkup and repair scenes" with Dr. Rudy Wells. Lee Majors had his real arm stretched and tied behind his back and he wore the bionic arm during those scenes. Even as early as about 1970, there were already bionic hands that would pass for their flesh-and-blood counterparts at a casual glance, and they were dextrous enough to allow their possessors to use them to tie shoelaces. My favorite line is from one of the early pilot TV movies. After Steve Austin rescued a woman and her boy, she noticed a few wires protruding from the damaged skin of his bionic arm and asked him, "Who are you...*what* are you?!"
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I have had one cone collapse on me. It was, most likely, the dreaded Krushnic effect. To address the issue, I made six longerons from 100lb card stock. They are accordian folded, then glued inside the cone so then look a little like this -^-

They add a touch of weight, but I have never had one collapse since.

To avoid excessive charring on the interior, I stuff some "dog barf" wadding into the front end of the engine. Seems to work prety nicely - actually makes a big difference.

For the fusealge that does get burned (I launched a few on booster engines), I just printed a new shroud on copier paper and glued it over the old damaged shroud.

I don't use a launch lug, per se, I cut a oval hole near the nose, and put a notch in the bulkhead. These serve as a luanch lug that runs along the motor tube, and allows the rocket ro take of going straight, as opposed to an angle.

I also use a 24mm motor mount - not that I use 24mm motors. I have an 18mm motor adapter with a streamer wrapped around it, Whenthe motor kicks out, it comes down on a streamer (NAR-friendly).

Lastly, I found that the X-24 is easier to trim without the fins.
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.... This one was really howling...'til it caught on fire

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Oh, I think it was howling after it caught fire too.

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Thank you.Indeed! They used actual bionic arms (not having super-human strength, of course) for the "bionics checkup and repair scenes" with Dr. Rudy Wells. Lee Majors had his real arm stretched and tied behind his back and he wore the bionic arm during those scenes. Even as early as about 1970, there were already bionic hands that would pass for their flesh-and-blood counterparts at a casual glance, and they were dextrous enough to allow their possessors to use them to tie shoelaces. My favorite line is from one of the early pilot TV movies. After Steve Austin rescued a woman and her boy, she noticed a few wires protruding from the damaged skin of his bionic arm and asked him, "Who are you...*what* are you?!"


Just saw an infomercial tonight advertising the first season of the show on DVD for the first time ever. Put out by one of those Time-Life deals. Price was $39.95. Included several of the pilot movies as well. I was not a super-big fan of the show as a kid, but for those who were, looks like you'll be able to finally re-live those memories.

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Just saw an infomercial tonight advertising the first season of the show on DVD for the first time ever. Put out by one of those Time-Life deals. Price was $39.95. Included several of the pilot movies as well. I was not a super-big fan of the show as a kid, but for those who were, looks like you'll be able to finally re-live those memories.

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Earl, thank you for posting this!
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